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SUICIDE BOMBERS |
tomyz
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 22:25:24
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SUICIDE BOMBERS- rite, they get on a plane
full ov stangers, mostly all nice people, wiv
kids an family, gud lives,
Y do they wanta hurt ordinary pepes who cud b
ther brovas or sistas, or mum & dad, reli, y
not go up to gordon brown or obama wiv a bomb
or attack an armed soldier in helmand, its a
bit mor fair or reasonable? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
tomyz
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 22:36:07
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euro human rights go too far, we luk after
pepes from anova country who have fought
english soldiers in afgan cuz ther
grandparents were born under british rule..? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
tomyz
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 22:54:36
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pepes who live ere, use this country as a
base to attack this country an other states
who have freedom , this aint a racist thred,
pepes who thru fundamentalist indoctrination
kill inocents for an injust cause.... |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 23:00:08
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Let me draw out a literary point here. I
think labeling the scumbag suicider a suicide
bomber gives name and title to scumbag
nobody's.
I think twisted scumbager suicider is more
appropriate a name be it title.Freakish
religious scumbagger suicider's of alquada's
evil army.Scumbagger oshmaa bin 's.
The order of sociopathic disorder. The
reverse of life army of nobody's in reverse
of life. Suicide scumbaggers of a cause of no
real cause. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
tomyz
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 23:06:59
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dont get me wrong, this years suicide bomber
is nex years freedom fighter , so y cant we
find a dialogue wiv saudi's dodgy ex prince
an make a deal . cuz da cia made a deal to
set him up in afgan aganst da russians? they
trained him an armed him? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-27
Time: 23:39:44
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not surewhat level? Try this,the scumbagger
what failed in his attempt to blow a plane
landing at a Detroit Mich. international
airport carring amore than two hundered
passengers. baned from the Uk,another red
flag. His father turned him in at the
American Embasy in Nigeria.So why did the
scumbagger's father turn him in? Answer,
because the scumbagger's father realized that
his own offspring is a no good,-, good for
nothing bum of a so called son who is in
truth nothing more than a useless sociopath
who wants to bring down as many people down
with him as he can, starting with his
immediate family . The scumbagger wants to
destroy as many lives as he can . He father
knew that there is no sense to be made of it
and no form of logic applies religious or
otherwise. And so the scumbagger's father did
what any good conscientious person would do,
he alearted authorities. He alerted
authorities because he knew his no good bum
of a son was beyound any hope.He knew his no
good bum of a son is nothing more than a
sociopathic little twit of a snit who wants
to cause the world if he can as much grief as
he no doubt caused his family. And that's
where scumbagger suiciders come from. They
are easily convinced they have cause and
purpose.And if yer were to realy look at it,
since the scumbaggers care little or nothing
about life itself ,yer can know scumbaggers
care nothing at all about death. And since
they are narcissist's from the get go, it
just doesn't take much along the lines of
convincing or conditioning.
And there is yer perfect candadate fer the
scumbagger suicide army.The narcissist.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
gdawg
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 00:26:46
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and yet despite with all these authorities
being informed of his bad intent,he was still
allowed/managed to board a flight with a bomb
of sorts ..
at least it's taken the flak away from the
healthcare bill in america..lol
american's always sleep sounder at night
knowing their government is looking after
them.. 
i mean have a look at tom ridge's book...he
was the former head of homeland security
under bush.. claimed certain members of the
bush administration wanted the security level
raised just before the election... |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 00:34:17
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Niagra you have claimed to be syops trained
in the past. If this is so your last tirade
is nothing but the ranting of a fool who has
forgotten his lessons.
The sad fact of the matter is the KID who
tried to blow up that plane and all the other
KIDS who are indoctrinated and programmed by
clever syops trained muslim radicals to blow
themselves up are victims too. They have
their childhoods warped in the name of a
religious perversion and then get to be the
weapon of those that are too clever to do the
fighting themselves.
Rather than raging at children and those who
are, mentally deficient, damaged or imprinted
you should aim your anger at the real
s[censored]bags who spend years turning
children into weapons. Or maybe at the short
sighted fools who trained the syops in the
first place. But of course, that would mean
requiring your CIA to explain why they
trained muslim extremists in destabilisation
and youth indoctrination techniques.
As for the question about why hit a plane
full of innocents, the answer is simple and 2
fold, killing soldiers or politicians is hard
and does not bring real publicity, failing to
bring down a plane caused mass headlines and
massive repercussions, that will go on for
months to come. Fact is a failed “bomb” will
cause more disruption than a successful
attack. It will be in the papers for months
to come, all the way through the trial
appeals right up to the execution, and at
every turn it will be plastered across the
papers and will push more angry teenagers
into the hands of the militants while causing
an ill-informed public to kept at a
hysterical fever point.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 02:24:38
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Well willwill, it seems police agencies are
doing a better job at putting the pices to
the puzzel than military intellegence
does.Yer right about about the psychological
impact of a failed attempt. But I think
recent finding's of the locations and
surveillance of make shift terrorist cells
tells much more about it.
Yer right in that those scumbagger quick
trained -,and especially the the university
attending of past attending student
scumbagger will seem to suit a specific
purpose. In the psychologey of it it yer
suppos'ed to think, oh nooooooo,the're
everywhere their everywhere.
You can know all about who trained what and
where ever ,when ever ,but what the deal is
now is what it's about.
sooner or later the general public will have
to be brought into the picture, educated to
just what is going on.The reason there is so
little information is because fear of wide
spread panic on the general publics end.
I know the rules of engagement where it is
about combating terrorists on forign soil.
And I know those rules of engagement haven't
changed much in thirty years. And that is why
when the troops are asked,just what is your
mission, they say they don't really know. and
that has members of our congress infuriated,
and that goes doubble fer members of congress
that have served in the military.
Willwill ,you know the rules of engagement in
combat with terrorists, the rules are simple,
kill them all and make no mistakes.But we
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 02:45:24
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What I do know is that the CIA has a habit of
putting on blinkers and running black ops for
short term gain and then leaving the rest of
the world to deal with the mess. I would not
mind but they do this continually.
Do I have to remind you that it was the CIA
armed and trained the Viet Min, then when the
USA found itself up to its neck in Vietnam
changed their name to Viet Cong so that no
one would blame them, then there was the Iran
Contra escapade, that got you kicked out of
most of south America, now we have the
Taliban to deal with (their the mujahideen
renamed). Anyone see a pattern here?
Wonder who’s been armed by those out of
control halfwits at Langley now?
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 03:05:12
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What yer getting at comes into most every
political discussion about this whole
mess.And yor know willwill,none of add up to
much in anything where it is about dealing
with whats on the plate now.
Do you understand this whole thing would have
been started in early 1974 willwill? and that
includes the 9/11 case scenario. That's what
I was trained for.
And I'll tell yer something else, I know a
number of career military people long since
retired today that served in vietnam ,that to
this day disbelieve that the plan was to pull
out of Vietnam and in to the middle east.It's
just too terrible for even career military to
except.
It's on us not,the objective is to deal with
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 09:03:41
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Maybe that’s the difference between the US
and the UK armed forces.
Combat, fieldcraft and general soldiering
skills took up less than half my training.
The majority of my training involved history,
military history and political history, with
lots of paper chase exercises based on
historical scenarios set in the modern world.
The idea being that first we had to identify
the correct socio-political background and
then counter all aggressive/defensive moves,
both political and military to arrive at the
outcome we required.
The reason we spent so much time doing this
was because we were always told that those
who fail to learn from history are going to
keep repeating the same mistakes!
Only a fool dismisses history as something
for historians to comment on, but then the
man directly responsible for both Afghanistan
and Iraq was most lightly the most stupid,
ill-informed buffoon ever to be selected as
US president. However I suppose when you are
the largest military power in the world you
don’t need intelligent leaders, all you need
are bullies.
Of course not being American or having your
insight Niagra anything I or anyone else says
that does not fit in with uncle Sams view of
the world must be wrong.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 19:11:48
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Thats a bit of a strech willwill. Do you
really think Bush started all this? Or do you
know he simply agreed to be a player in
action that already was there? There was one
question that Bush had to answer before he
was confirmed as a republican party
candadate. He answered that question to the
powers that be.
That being said, why is it do you think you
are in this?You meaning England or the UK.
What I studied was the business of war. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 20:00:11
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Can not agree with any good reason. suicide
s[censored]baggers are conditioned ,reasons
as you say are instilled through a
brainwashing method. They are filled with
hate to begin with. It does o doubt take a
bit of sociopath or somewhat of a sociopathic
disorder to make for a suicide
s[censored]bagger candadate. And I think that
has something to do with the selective
process.
Across the population ,what would you think
percentages are along the lines of
sociopathic disorders? 2 percent ,4.3 percent
maybe? Than there is the religion thing.
What about large families, say those of ten
off spring or more than that? What would be
the percentages in such cir[censored]stances?
1 in ten,2 in ten ,more perhaps?What do you
think really makes fer a suicide
s[censored]bagger? do you really think it is
reason? do you actually think there is any
form of logic to it?
The only logical explination or reason is the
love of death and destruction.There is
reason.
There is no military logic in psychological
warfare other than winning the war in
whatever it takes.you stop the war by
eradicating the problem.
Attempting to understand reason for suicide
s[censored]baggers is what is daft in and of
itself.That reason simply is the love of
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 20:20:14
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We that is the UK are in this latest Vietnam
with you because we are stupid and still look
to the USA in the false belief that it is in
our interests to align with you rather than
align with our European partners, as a result
you (the USA) keep shafting us as you have
done since the 1930’s.
As for Bush, he had a chance to end the
madness but he proved himself to be a short
sighted coward, but then he was a Vietnam
draft dodger so what would you expect.
Instead of doing the right thing and replying
to the twin towers with overwhelming force he
decided to make himself and his mates in the
arms industry richer than they were already.
Shame Blair decided that we needed to pay
your “blood price” so that your bankers could
steal billions from us!
As you say its all linked, maybe you needed a
thick president to get away with your
systematic shafting of your allies while
breaking every rule of war as laid down in
the Geneva conventions.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 20:27:03
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Well, the area willwill is on is where they
are essientially conditioned to be what that
is. Or turned into what that is. what that is
, is a sucicide scumbagger.
What they look for in their candadates is
that which is already there. What that is ,is
narcissistic tendencies.Now the religious
leaders at their places of worship know the
families and in particular the large ones. -,
many offspring.
And information gathering for terrorist
operations includes the places of worship.
Every little thing is recorded in records at
the places of worship.Although we have no
scientific proff of that. However it is a
logical assumption.
And it all ties in to the process of
selection. What they work with in the process
of conditioning is what is already there,that
being narcissium ,the narcissist loves death
and hates life.But the key factor is the
narcissist invites death and
destruction/ruination. Those prayer chants
they do connects them with the dark or
darkest side of themselves. It's just that
way.
When they volunteer to become sucicide
scumbaggers ,they are seperated from all
things and go in to a process of coditioning.
If yer were to study about hypnosisa little
bit, you might better come toundrstand the
process of conditioning or brainwashing.
Do you eecuse the criminal sociopathic
murderer because the scumbag has a
sociopathic disorder?Did the scumbag not
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 20:33:19
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so than willwill what you are saying is that
what is happening today with the troop
escalation is just a continuence of what you
call bush enterprises, is that about right to
yer view to it? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
sunova20
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 21:44:10
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suicide bombers are just [censored] houses
all cowards
if they really wanted too hit where it hurts
how hard could it be too attach explosives to
themselves and let blast at a public
political campaign and kill brown. or inside
a football match or a big event |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2009-12-28
Time: 21:52:11
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SUNOVA,don't go giving these mad dung heads
any more ideas,they are mad enough to go and
do it.They have nothing ells going on in
there tiny minds so this is there chance to
go up in the world,After the bang about 500
feet in all directions. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 12:21:22
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Unfortunately yes niagra.
Its just like any other normal conflict
escalation scenario, and as with all other
such scenarios it becomes a conflict of
attrition that will continue till one sides
economic base is destroyed or the will to
fight is broken. Nine years ago a couple of
nukes (one for each tower) would have brought
a halt to the madness that is the middle
east, but hey GW and his mates in Halley
Burton and the rest of the US arms industry
would not have been able to rip you off for
billions of $ and all for nothing!
The sad fact is that there is only one cheep
way to resolve conflicts, and that is to use
massive and totally non-proportional
retaliation strikes against the first overt
violent attack.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
freddo1939
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 13:04:52
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The human rights of this bomber should be
observed...........
.... these rights are... to be torchured till
he tells all... who helped him etc etc.
He gave up human rights when he decided he
could take away other ppls human rights to
live and let live.
Why do the fundamentalists think they have
the right to kill innocent people...
Lots of these ppl may be sympathetic to their
wishes.. If the USA did a unilateral act -
like nuking the area of Waziristan ,
where they hang out.... the cry would
be...What about the innocents.... and rightly
so.... so why should we observe the so called
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 13:13:26
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Broncob, when I was in the mob we used to
call the tactic “wasp stings”, in
interdiction terms, we would train to plant
explosives on bridges ect with the aim of
destroying them when there were high value
supplies on the bridge.
Now that the tactic is used against us it is
called terrorism, to me it is just war.
Maybe if we stop thinking of those we are at
war with as some sort of misguided fool and
see them as what they are (our enemy) and
treat them as such we would not be so
confused!
It is not a war on terror, it is a war full
stop!
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 20:24:26
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As they trace the s[censored]baggers doings
,reguards to the s[censored]bager what tried
to blow up a plane over Detroit Mich.,It is
begining to look as though the
s[censored]bagger fits right in to the
profile.
The s[censored]baggers father was cutting him
off.The s[censored]baggers father told the
s[censored]bag he was forbidden to study
Arabic in a place known to harbor
s[censored]bag terrorist operatives.
The s[censored]bag decided to cut off all
ties with his father. Thus becoming filled
with hate for his own family.
There is the candadate for the suicide
s[censored]bagger brain washing crash
course.
They are literally hand selected.
The hate thing is like a brush fire that
continues to spread until it is out of
control.Prior to training the
s[censored]bagger focused his hate at Isreal
because of Gaza. His family came next.The
terrorist trainers show them the way to focus
all the anger and hate in one place for one
reason. That reason is love of death ,the one
thing that was clearly already in him.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 22:26:05
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lol its like the daily mail website here lol
well firstly, don't use the word jihard if
you don't know what it means, the actual word
means to strive, i.e. set an example, its
often refered to as ones inner struggle to
better ones self. e.g. fasting to remember
those without food. now it can be applied to
taking of arms to protect ones lands, but
even then its within established doctrins.
one example i can give is the drawing of
swords so a muslim cannot draw their sword
till the offending party has i.e. don't go
looking for trouble
secondly, we do have an established human
rights quota (the EU law's are a joke but
thats by the by), a little know monk (you
should know this by the way) named Thomas
Aquinas came out with the Just war theory. if
you were to apply what the UK and USA are
doing to middle eastern countrys it woulden't
take a degree student to work out, that our
goverments have deficated all over it.
No mother gives birth and raises her child
with the thinking one day he will kill. but i
got to tell you, when you have a 16 year old
Afgani child sitting in a coffee shop
colouring in his tissue, and telling you
about how he had to watch his sister being
blown to bits by "british friendly fire", and
how because of westurn ignorance he had to go
around his garden, due to his dad already
being killed, and his mother fainting at the
sight of her little girl's death, this little
boy, collecting body parts. IT TENDS TO
CHANGE YOUR IDEAS ON WHAT A CIVIL SOCIETY
IS!
if someone came into my house, killed my
family, told me what to believe in and how to
live, then you bet you i'd been pretty angry
what ignorant people don't realise is people
are dieing on both sides. we as british
people are bankrolling murder. quicker we do
something about it the safer our children
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
willwill56
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 23:07:26
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Blaster, I agree with most you say. I would
only disagree on 2 points.
1 I do not believe any war is morally
justifiable, war is a necessary evil! I spent
many years being a willing tool of that evil,
and I speak as one who has seen war up close
and personal.
2 There is no such thing as friendly fire,
munitions don’t have feelings! And anyone
firing at you is not your friend!
One other thing I may sound at times like a
daily mail bigot but I am not, there are only
2 ways to end wars destroy the enemy or be
destroyed. The fact that our politicians
refuse to make the hard choices and force
conflicts to be drawn out over many miserable
years in the name of proportionality and
balance is the sickest joke of all and leads
to higher losses in the end.
Rightly or wrongly I believe that the only
thing that really works is the use of massive
overkill at the right moment. That moment was
9/12 immediately after the Taliban told Bush
to go &**** himself. He was found wanting!
Now we all pay the price.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2009-12-29
Time: 23:32:38
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friendly fire is a term used when innocents
are shot, they were no taliban in the hills
at the time where this child lived, only
mujahideen which were on the other side of
the vally.
they fight in hills where their are no houses
so children don't get hurt, friedly fire was
the excuse given by british forces when
explaining to the family why their little
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 00:14:46
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Well what about the taliban planting ieds all
over the place killing and maiming more of
the locals than our lads,then there is AL
qaeda,killing any one that gets in there way
of what ever belief or age,then there is the
different Islamic factions killing each
other,planting bombs outside mosques,the list
goes on n on n on,then you have the ordasity
to call the people of the west the murders.I
don't think so,but you no doubt will have
some thing to say to justify there actions
and call yourselves a peace full peaple,WHAT
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
xblack_heartx
Status: Moderator
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 03:09:15
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I think I'll go change the world by going and
killing a bus full of innocent people. I will
be famous! Everyone will know this great
world started because of me!
BOOM!!!!!!
Oops! I fogot, I won't be around to see if
my bomb even mattered. (Now really! How
flipping stupid is that?!) |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
xblack_heartx
Status: Moderator
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 03:18:59
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You know I just don't get how people believe
it is okay to convince someont that their
life has less meaning. And don't even get me
started on having children do that because
people won't suspect. Why is it okay to take
the choice of a living breathing person away
for what ever the issue is that a group is
fighting for? In the end the only one who
really remembers the bomber after a few days
is the family that they left behind. I bet no
one can name one famous suicide bomber.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
gdawg
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 10:52:19
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blaster makes an awful lot of valid points
tbh.
i'm sure ppl must realise that there is an
awful lot of what goes on doesn't get
reported in the west.
like i posted before..google john rendon.
iran isn't the only country with controlled
media..LOL
i mean even the government under blair where
caught out trying to discredit the medical
journal the lancet when they were running
articles regarding how many civillians may
have been killed by the invasion.
but not to worry ..i'm sure there's a tv
program on sometime later showing the top 10
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 16:35:41
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beever its spelt idea lol, and im glad the
other daily mail reader likes my name
Blaster_Bunny
you asked me what i think of suicide bombers,
well to put it simply i feel the same about a
bomber as i do about a a soilder illegal
being present in another country. as for
fairness, is it not common knowledge that the
british and amercian goverment supplied arms
and wepons to Bin Larden during the cold war
to fight off the Russians. its ironic how the
same arms are now being used to fight off the
british and the amercians. don't you think?
If we are to talk about terrorism then we
should look a little closer to home, after
all you can look at the struggle in ireland
and its undertones after years later, their
are still new facts coming to light about our
own goverments wrong doings.
As far as the Qu'ran goes, it dosen't say "an
eye for an eye". or speaks of women as
harlets. i can take any quote from the bible
and twist it for my own political means.
dosen't make the bible wrong now does it?
Judge a faith by its REAL teachings and not
its people, i woulden't ask a red neck from
the United States what Jesus P.B.U.H thinks
of ethnic people, or women drivers? lol.
after all Jesus P.B.U.H. was Palastinian, he
was born in Palastine. same place where my
british paid tax money is being used to kill
children.
scratch the surface and look to find the
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 17:40:30
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your knowledge of history is defunct.blaster
During the Russian occupation of
Afghanistan.
O bin Laden was a junior officer in the
Mujahadeen ALL and that is ALL the problems
with the Taliban did not occur until after
the Russians had left. You ought not get your
history from The Daily Mail dear
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 17:47:57
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Matthew 5:38-48
WHAT JESUS SAID
38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for
eye, and tooth for tooth.'[a] 39But I tell
you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone
strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him
the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue
you and take your tunic, let him have your
cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go
one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to
the one who asks you, and do not turn away
from the one who wants to borrow from you.
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love
your neighbor[b] and hate your enemy.' 44But
I tell you: Love your enemies[c] and pray for
those who persecute you, 45that you may be
sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his
sun to rise on the evil and the good, and
sends rain on the righteous and the
unrighteous. 46If you love those who love
you, what reward will you get? Are not even
the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you
greet only your brothers, what are you doing
more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly
Father is perfect
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 18:15:31
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Firstly,
the Mujahadeen and Taliban are DIFFRENT, the
mujahadeen do not kill women or children,
neither do they hide their faces, the fight
up in the mountains to stop loss of innocent
life.
the Taliban were bank rolled by the british
and amercian goverment during the cold war,
don't quote references to his so called place
of command. they're all as bad as eachother.
thirdly, lol at the quote. everyone knows the
bible was changed in at the council of
Naseeiah. im not intrested in what luke,
john, mathew or mark, have to say on faith, i
wanna know about Jesus P.B.U.H. the quote you
have given can be twisted and interprated
depending on what side of the fence someone
sits on
my main concern is PEOPLE ARE DIEING. some
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 20:34:10
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Bunny, in all yer finger pointing you missed
one important fact and the fact is bin ladin
proved to the world years ago that he is
nuts-, appropriate word-insane.to text he as
a case reference sociopath.OK so NUTS.And if
yer were tob look into that and his doings
after the break up of the soviet union and
fallow up on it from there forword, you might
figure something out !
Suicide s[censored]bagers is what they are. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 21:22:48
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Blaster,what is your definition of an
illegal,as oppose to a legal war?war is war
no matter which way you look at it.was not
the hijack of airplanes which hit the twin
towers an illegal act,was not the training
camps from which they came in Afghanistan,the
answer to both is a yes,Hence the war
now.There are so many innocents that have
paid with there lives because of such attacks
on all sides and continue to this day and
beyond.If the USA and Britain and
Europe,where not attacked in the first place
these innocents who have paid with there
lives would they not be alive now.As fore
interpretation of the HOLY BOOKS,yours and
mine and others,they are only books
containing only words,so one can make any
book seem to mean what ever you like to
justify what ever you like.Makes one wonder
why we need them in the first place,is it not
up to us the people of the world to just live
our lives as best we all can and just try to
live together,as friends not enemies. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 21:34:27
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The interesting thing about the tomato seed
is that you can repeatdly grow tomato's in
abundence .And yer can feed the flock!only if
you tend the garden. But what bin ladin dishs
out is utter trash.What is products of the
trash bin.But where did it or he come from to
begin with. bin ladin who thinks the king is
a nobody .So bin ladin crowned himself after
he flead what once was a country that would
allow that.so what is that, martyr or trash
collector?You kanow there can be but one true
answer to the question.
suicide scumbagers equals trash.Therefore
trash collector is the one right answer. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 21:46:53
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You can go reverse in that one might say that
ones mans trash be it rubbish is another mans
treasure.Than explain if can human waste
.Unnecessary loss of life is a waste .And
life without meaning is a waste.
To believe you can gain life by taking life
away is insane. |
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ENTER THE TALIBAN |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 21:58:40
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in 1994...after the Russians had left. a
group of men who were annoyed by the
banditry..from the mujahadeen..on the roads
of Afghanistan were recruited from a madrassa
in Singegesar village in Khadahar
provinve from Pushtu ethnic groups ,Their
first weapons and money came from Haji Bashar
of Maiwand a commander of Hezb-i Islami and
Abdul Ghaffar Akhundzdeh a major potentate in
Helmand provice and support from Pakinstans
ISI Inter Services Intelligence.
In October 12 1994 200 Taliban assulted the
border district centre of Spin Boldak which
had a massive truck stop .The rout of the
mujahadeen Hezb-e Islami garrison under
Mullah Akhtar Jan was all over in 2 hours
with 1 talib only dead 7 hezbis died and
many wounded. The is no doubt that the
Taliban had artillery support form inside
Pakistan..
At the same time the Talib siezed the massive
Hezbis arms dump at Pasha which was moved
there from PAKISTAN in 1991
On october 29 th 1994 a convoy left Quetta
for Turkmenistan and in the deserts north of
Spin Boldak it had 2 ISI members and 2
Taliban commanders Borjan and Turbani and
oother Taliban were riding shotgun. On
November 2 35 km from Kahdahar the convoy was
stopped by fighters of Mansur Achakzai at
takht-e Pul because locals were annoyed by
Pakistan involvement in Afghanistan affairs.
The sudden re-inforcement on Nov 3 by Taliban
fighters pre-empted the negotiations and then
swept into Khandahar city and routed the
local mujahadeen warlord.
the rest is history
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 22:07:46
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the council of Nicea 325 AD
did nothing at all about the New Testament
all the books of the new testament were
establish hundreds of years before.
MUSLIMS LIE ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS ALL THE
TIME
AS THEY HAVE TO
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-30
Time: 22:09:51
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Look at it though.
One mans trash be it rubbish converts or is
converted into treasure or is viewed as such
the so called treasure changes to pure waste.
Life becomes the trading voucher and is
exchanged for a imaginary thing or life
perfect which does not exist. Life exists as
it is for all it is on lifes terms.
Life which is something is traded for or
exchanged for non existence.Or a imiaginary
existence.Something is given in exchange for
nothing in return. Profit is cause.But only
the living gain by it.
Those thatb are willing to exchange something
for nothing or all for nothing become human
waste.
Believe that. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
gdawg
Date:
2009-12-31
Time: 17:19:26
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wasn't there a civil war of sorts once the
russians left?
taliban and mudjahadeen?
the mudjahadeen had served their purpose so
america kind of left them to their own
devices(ok,this is the edited version i've
not got the time... )
consequently the taliban became the dominant
force...
but the afghans were funded by the US..
martin_eden posted a piece concerning it
recently i'll have a look tomorrow to see if
i can find it..
but mudjahadeen leaders were paraded in the
US and described as afghan freedom
fighters...
beaver..the uk wasn't attcked until after the
invasion,same with spain.. ...
and no.i'm not muslim before anybody asks or
sends a pm to me either..
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2009-12-31
Time: 20:07:34
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Call it as it is,any one who has ever been in
a conflict and has seen the results of such
will under stand the futility of war in any
form be it terrorism,or a declared war.It
does not solve any thing as there is always
another starts soon after the one before it
has ended.If the human race ever learned any
thing from a conflict there would never be
war ever again,but sadly the human race never
does and never has learned any thing at any
time in our history except how to kill more
in the next conflict.Call war what it is by
the real name it is,by any side,and that word
is MURDER. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2009-12-31
Time: 20:18:36
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Beavers build dams to restirct the flow ,I
should think yer insight into just that would
give you a more thorough detailed prosepctive
about war and it's intended
purpose.Restricted flow changes to regulated
flow and from that point yer can build upon a
greater concept. The power of change or
transformation is truely miraculous, only if
it all works out of course. This is not to
say war is good, but if you equate it to
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2009-12-31
Time: 22:57:30
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mr.falls your right
bin larden is a nut, the same nut the UK and
USA sold arms to, the same NUT the UK and USA
bank rolled to spy on russia.
lol @ the rest being a lie, well i would say
go ask an afgani what is going on within
their country, be clear to ask who the
terrorists really are, becauses from where i
am standing, they are one and the same.
Humanity takes precedent over nationality and
capitalism. the day humanity see's war as a
nessesity then we will have lost our humanity
p.s. yeah i do real the daily mail, i
woulden't waste good money on it, but if you
had any sensibility you'd know its owned by
Rupert Merdock. look up his background, its
less then dignified. Happy New year
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-01
Time: 06:46:03
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blaster you are so FUNNY.
that is the worst of uneducated and thick
people like you , you don't know you are yet
you have opinions that are firm.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE forget what you think you know.
If you want to express an opinion about
ISLAM
THE TALIBAN
WHO OWNS THE DAILY MAIL
or anything really
please message me and I will tell you the
truth.
Perhaps you ought to go and blast all those
who have taught you previously ..for lying to
you.
Happy New year to you
You are really a lucky bunny to have me
educate you.
massive task I know
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-01
Time: 14:39:04
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lol, im not going to educate myself in how to
try (and fail) to be-little others rarther
then defend theorys which are clearly non
sensical.
Just because my view dosen't consist with
your idea of right and wrong. Does not make
it any less valid. the media's controlled
just like any other nation across the world.
im not stupido enough to believe them word
for word lol.
learn to be objective instead of subjective.
just because one nation kills another in the
name of "liberation" does not make them any
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
boilersuit
Date:
2010-01-01
Time: 14:43:23
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For groups like Al Qaeda, suicide bombers are
really just weapons. The Al Qaeda
masterminds 'sell' martyrdom to these
brainwashed idiots who offer themselves as
weapons, but the masterminds believe
martydom is for other people, not for
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-01
Time: 21:06:01
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Blaster bunny the only thing a suicide
scumbager is equal to or same as is death
itself. That is the question the suicide
scumbager avoids fiercely .But the question
remains haunting to the scumbager. Haunting
to the point where mistakes are made.The
suicide scumbager will believe through their
twisted perverted religion that a god
oversees and protects their very existence.
Those twisted beliefs cannot and will not
sustain their chosen path of distruction. The
brain washing if yer will does not completly
do either.
Therefore there is conscious /sub conscious
conditioning involved. And there is right
where the prayer chanting has it holding
effect. Those scumbags are essiently praying
unto theirselves.Both consciously and sub
consciously. They pray to theirselves
believing they are praying to a higher god
who will take them out of this world into
another world or a non existent world.And at
some point in the process the question of
doubt is there. They doubt theirselves and
everything they have been conditioned to
believe.
Human survival is human instinctAnd to deny
human instinct is also to deny one's self. .
It's just that way.
Only the absoulute love of death itself can
over ride human instinct in the will to
survive.
And that is why this foolishness those
scumbag terrorist operatives put out there in
propagands ,the garbage talk about how
willing muslims are to die for a cause of no
real cause is total waste and rubbish.
Suicide scumbagers are hand picked out of the
bunchs.They are all narcissist's. Scumgag
sciopaths that are slowely or quickly
progressing through the phases.
And know the world has plenty of them, there
is no shortage of that.
The more educated the suicide scumbager, the
more powerful the effects of the altimate
question, or the question of doubt.
It helps to have some insight and knowledge
of the power of hypnotic suggestion where it
is about conditioning/brain washing,that and
how the narcissist/sociopath -,serial killer
progresses through the phases.
There yer may come to understand it in a
controled mannor. And thats what makes the
terrorist operatives total evil scum.Same
applies to those evil imans that are
connected to that.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-01
Time: 21:17:59
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Now fer example -serial killers-, I'll use
two. Wright in England and Gary Ridgeway
USA.
Two serial killers that at the end of their
rain of terror went full blown out of
control. Killing in numbers and disposing of
bodies in clusters. Yer must study patterns
of serial killers to get it.
Than look at the suicide scumbager, The
difference between the lone serial killer and
the suicide scumbager is the suicide
scumbager has given control over to other
human beings. Passing through the phases is
done in rapid sucession.Yer might say
jettisoning through the progressive stages in
a controled way about it.
Failed attempts makes them useful fer
propaganda . Other than that they are
rendered useless human waste by their own.
And the big question is always there to haunt
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-02
Time: 23:41:39
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if your going to use religion to justify your
hatred then christanity is the most hatefull
on record. after all it justified the slave
trade and the crusades.
that would be my thinking if i was
indoctrinated in the same way as you. but
luckly i can see it without the rose tinted
specks. The bible never spoke of justifying
racism or sexism for that matter.
people are ignorant not faith
as for the scumbags your so wingly ready to
call, i'd say yes they are horroble for
killing innocents. but so are those that arm
them. i.e. westurn goverments.
Don't kid yourself in saying any nation has a
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 00:42:05
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blaster bunny what about the narcissist ?
Don't you understand what that is? It is the
narcissist that may be so inclined to find
use of religion given the attraction to death
may become unbearable.
And yer may try reading the part about the
tomato in a different post!
What I am getting at is that religion has
little and nothing to do with the suicide
scumbager. It's just a smoke screen.
Look at the part about each and every suicide
scumbager being literally hand selected. They
are all narcissists ,narcissists are
incapable of love.It is death or escape from
life that they seek.And they are all filled
with hate and revenge. Revenge for having
been born.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 06:19:34
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OK so blaster bunny, yer might think ,it will
seem a bit odd that suicide scumbagers are
incapable of love given what they are most
willing to give up,that being life.
It is odd. And sure they make theirselves
think to believe that they are devout
belivers in the muslim fauith. In fact they
bask in it. But in truth it is just a way to
keep their minds occupied. The scumbagers
minds do tend to get in the way of the true
self scumbager. Actually scumbagers
continuesly fool theirselves into
temporarialy believing things. almost as if
they create temporary personalities to get
through verious time frames. Life fer them is
a continous changing fantasy.
But to get it, yer must study the behaviour
patterns of, believe it or not, pedophiles.
And how it is the pedophile passes through
the verious phases. They start out looking,
than touch fell ,progresses to rape than
murder to cover up the rape.The progressive
phases.
And yet even the convicted rapest/or even
murderer pedophile will clain,seemingly whole
heartedly ,that they would never ever hurt a
child. Some will claim it was a mistake that
got out of hand. Odd they are in how it is
they continousely try to fool theirselves
into believing a home spun web of lies they
forever create and try to live.They try to
actually live their own lies.And it's a never
ending vicious cycle for them.
It all comes down to murder and the love of
death.
And that is evil .That is what evil is.
It is not just escaping life ,but the act of
destroying life .
The suicide scumbager is no more religious
than the pedophile is,unless evil is some
type of a religion.
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blasterbunny and slavery |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 07:45:55
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slaves; Hey BLASTERBUNNY
thought you may like the TRUTH about slavery
NO ? I knew you would say that
MUSLIMS WERE AND HAVE BEEN THE WORST SLAVERS
IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD
THE ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE when black Africans
were transported to the Americas( much to
the
everlasting shame of europeans)
just plugged into the ARAB slave trade that
had been running since the 800's
THE MAIN SLAVE DEALS WERE RUN BY IMMANS
who could move around countries and cross
borders easily
THE ARAB SLAVE TRADE TOOK 2/3 women and 1/3
men and vise versa for the Atlantic slave
trade SO POOR BLACK AFRICANS were captured
in war raids or sold by their neighbours
some got sold to go via ships to America
and the others were marched across the
SAHARA
by Muslims
The Portugese were in the African slave
trade
before America was "discovered". It was
"nicer" to run the slaves up to Tangier and
Rabat and other placed by ship instead of
walking them up.
THE WOMEN WERE raped until old then released
into the community to " free a slave" and
gain merit with allah. The men often had
their nuts (testicles) cut of before they
entered Muslim kingdoms.
unlike the Americas
there are not many decendants of the
Africans
in muslim lands as the men were eunuchs and
the children born to black sex-slaves were
killed. Not only around 15 million Black
people were enslaved ( about the same as
were
done by Christians) but earlier the Sarcens
plundered the mediterrane for captives and
in
years before over about 1 million people
were
stolen from all countries of North Europe
for
slavery. the women became sex-slaves
and the men worked to they died building the
cities and palaces of Morocco. but hey they
were white who cares about them ?? WHEN
THE LAST ILLEGAL slave ship smuggled its
cargo into CUBA in the 1850's
what happened to the price of Black AFRICAN
SLAVES ? why the price fell as the trade had
halved.
THE FRENCH HAD TO INVADE THE SUB-SAHARAN
COUNTRIES TO SUPPRESS THE TRADE it almost
stopped in 1904.
BUT WHAT NOW
WOW the trade in bLACKS HAS SHOT UP BECAUSE
OF SUDAN. WHICH IS A MAIN POIN OF THE WAR
MANY good CHRISTIAN men and women fought to
kill the
Atlantic slave trade
but NOT ONE MUSLIM HAS EVER FELT ANY GUILT
ABOUT SLAVERY
when did the slave market in MECCA SHUT
DEAR BLASTERBYNNY ?
about 1955 thats when.
iT WAS YOUNG TEENAGERS
The boys cried as they knew they were going
to be castrated
but the girls were more resigned because by
the time they were teenagers thEy would have
had been raped since they first menstruated.
GOD'S RELIGION EH ?
MOHAMMED AND SLAVERY OF INNOCENT PEOPLE
When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to
accept Sad's judgment, Allah's Apostle sent
for Sad who was near to him. Sad came,
riding
a donkey and when he came near, Allah's
Apostle said (to the Ansar), "Stand up for
your leader." Then Sad came and sat beside
Allah's Apostle who said to him. "These
people are ready to accept your judgment."
Sad said, "I give the judgment that their
warriors should be killed and their children
and women should be taken as prisoners." The
Prophet then remarked, "O Sad! You have
judged amongst them with (or similar to) the
judgment of the King Allah." (Sahih Bukhari
4.280)
These are the names of Muhammad's male
slaves: Yakan Abu Sharh, Aflah, 'Ubayd,
Dhakwan, Tahman, Mirwan, Hunayn, Sanad,
Fadala Yamamin, Anjasha al-Hadi, Mad'am,
Karkara, Abu Rafi', Thawban, Ab Kabsha,
Salih, Rabah, Yara Nubyan, Fadila, Waqid,
Mabur, Abu Waqid, Kasam, Abu 'Ayb, Abu
Muwayhiba, Zayd Ibn Haritha, and also a
black
slave called Mahran, who was re-named (by
Muhammad) Safina (`ship').
such a nice way to treat his a slave
sounds like southern usa around a1790
The apostle of God and his companions went
on
a trip. (When) their belongings became too
heavy for them to carry, Muhammad told me,
`Spread your garment.' They filled it with
their belongings, then they put it on me.
The
apostle of God told me, `Carry (it), for you
are a ship.' Even if I was carrying the load
of six or seven donkeys while we were on a
journey, anyone who felt weak would throw
his
clothes or his shield or his sword on me so
I
would carry that, a heavy load. The prophet
told me, `You are a ship"' (refer to Ibn
Qayyim, pp. 115-116; al-Hulya, Vol. 1, p.
369, quoted from Ahmad 5:222).
such a nice master
"t Muhammad, Abu Bakr and 'Umar. This is
recorded in his book entitled, "The
Commentary of al-Baydawi". On p. 36,
"The Shafi'i and Malik prohibit the killing
of a freeman if he slays his slave or other
men's slaves. This is because 'Ali Ibn
Abi-Talib mentioned that a man had killed
his
slave and Muhammad scourged him only; he did
not kill him. It was related on the
authority
of Muhammad that he said a Muslim should not
be killed for a non-Muslim, nor a freeman
for
a slave; also because Abu Bakr and 'Umar Ibn
al-Khattab did not kill a freeman for a
slave. (This was said) in the presence of
all
Muhammad's companions, and no one
disapproved
or objected to it
Vol. 8, Part II, p. 27 1), Ibn Hazm asserts
that this is the opinion of Abu Hanifa,
Shafi'i, Malik, and Sufyan al-Thawri and not
only his own opinion. This is what the
Sharawi remarks,
"Female slaves are deprived of dignity and
subject to abuse because they are not `an
honor' to anyone (that is, they are not
free,
respectable women who belong to a free man).
These are the same words reiterated by the
Shafi'i (Part I, p. 307) in his book, `Ahkam
of the Qur'an'; thus a female slave must not
be veiled. When- ever Muhammad took a woman
as a captive, if he imposed the veil on her,
Muslims would say he took her as a wife, but
if he left her unveiled they would say, `He
owned her as a slave'; that is, she became a
property of his right hand."
AND
on the authority of Muhammad. In Vol. 6,
Part
9, p. 467, Ibn Hazm said,
"If a slave gets married without the
permission of his master, his marriage will
be invalid and he must be whipped because he
has committed adultery. He must be separated
from his wife. She is also regarded as an
adulteress because Muhammad said, `Any slave
who gets married without the approval of his
master is a prostitute6
WHAT A NICE GUY
no racism here !
Malik Ibn Ons, who (after agreeing with the
other scholars that the master has the right
to force his male or female slave to get
married) added,
"The master does not have the right to force
the female slave to wed to an ugly black
slave if she is beautiful and agile unless
in
case of utmost necessity" (refer to Ibn
Hazm,
Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 469
buying a bint
In Vol. 31, p. 383, Ibn Timiyya says,
"It is not permissible for the Arab freeman
to marry an owned slave unless it is
inevitable, such as being unable to get
married to a free woman. If it happened and
he were wed to a slave, her children would
be
slaves, too, because they follow (the
status)
of the mother in slavery."
SUPPOSE A WOMAN WANTS TO MARRY HER SLAVE ?
in this case If something like that took
place in Islamic society, it would be a
disaster! Umar Ibn Khattab in these
situations. In Vol. 8, Part 11, pp. 248,
249,
Ibn Hazm remarks,
"A woman was wed to her male slave. Umar
intended to stone her, but instead he made
them separate and sent the slave to exile.
He
told the woman, `It is unlawful for you to
get married to your owned slave!' Another
woman got married to her slave. Umar
scourged
her with a whip and forbade any man to marry
her. Another time, a freewoman came to Umar
and told him, `I am not a pretty woman and I
have a slave to whom I would like to get
married.' Umar refused to do so. He whipped
the slave and ordered him to be sold in a
foreign country. He told the woman, `It is
unlawful for you to get married to what your
right hand owns. Only men have the right to
get wed to what their right hand owns. Even
if you set him free in order to marry him
and
he becomes a freeman, the manumission will
be
invalid and the marriage is not
valid."'
THE REALITY OF SLAVERY
SOUNDS LIKE USA 1804
"If an owned slave assaults somebody and
damages his property, his crime will be tied
to his neck. It will be said to his master,
`If you wish, you can pay the fine for the
damages done by your slave or deliver him to
be sentenced to death.' His master has to
choose one of the two options - either the
value of the slave and his price or the
damage the slave has caused" (Vol. 32, p.
202, Ibn Timiyya).
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 08:54:17
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It's a read ! And suicide scumbagers are
more or less inslaved. It's like I say, the
difference between the scumbag serial killer
and the suicide scumbager terrorist is the
suicide scumbager turns over power to other
human beings. All that means is that the
suicide scumbager has not fully imbraced
theirselves. The fear that is contained
within the suicide scumbager ,fear of self
realization , or the fear of knowing thy self
becomes the area of focus and control for
those that preform the terrorist conditioning
process.
The serial killer lost that fear durning the
the kill.Or nothing left to hide and nowhere
left to hide .It is the thrill that sustains
them ,it becomes the addiction.
And there is a after glow, but it wears off.
Thats the smile ,elated.The failed suicide
scumbager will only have that after glow once
for a very short period. And it comes to them
through the process of conditioning. It would
comapre to, oh say a time release pill if yer
will. But there are no more.
Thats why they are rendered useless human
waste by their own. Their own meaning the
scumbags that did the conditioning. Those
religous fannatics believe all that myrtar
crap as is part of conditioning the populas.
But the suicide scumbagers are hand picked.
Because only the narcissist scumbag will
fallow through with. Only those that truely
have no conscience.Or those that allow it to
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 20:23:27
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lol, you got to laugh at him, all the hot air
with no substance. o well if he feels he has
to try and insult me to get somewhere its
fine, the world Philistine comes to mind 
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 21:02:43
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The myth of muslim myrtyrism is brought to a
paractical understandable prospective by
taking the poetic content from an old tune by
the rock band Lead Zepplan.cc. song title
Stairway To Heraven. Now, some of yers may be
far too young to remember the controversy
raised over Zeplin song stairway to heaven
raised by religious noteables ,it was said
and in published print by certain clergy
members that the song itself has a hypnotic
trance setting and is evil by its content,;
ie, sending sub conscious messages out there
to lisseners.
Stairway To Heaven.
Durning the process of conditioning
/brainwashing,the suicide scumbager through a
process of hypnotic suggestion proformed by
more than one terrorist religious scumbager
leader ,picture three of them standing over
the body of a suicide scumbager approching
stages of sleep in a semi natural setting.
The hypnotic ritual disguised as some kind of
religious chanting of some type or other.
The subject in a semi conscious state taking
part in the prayer chant ritual. The subject
in a sort of inbetween state of sleep and
awareness of surroundings.
Through hypnotic suggestion the stairway to
heaven in introduced than later instilled
through a process and what ever the subjects
ideas or views of what another life would be
becomes the sole object of desire and by or
through the the induced hypnotic suggestions
the fantasy becomes real to the subject. In
tehe process the subject is guided to relief
of built up anger and hate which is all and
consuming to the narcissist from the subjects
earlest memories. That relief brings with it
pleasure like a drug induced high ,a feeling
of having dropped invisibal weight and almost
floating in glee. What the subject knows not
of mind is that it is the love of death
itself .But that love of death through
carefully placed hypnotic suggestion is
viewed literially by the subject as a
transparent stairway to heaven.
And at the top of the steps through just a
glimps would be everything and anything the
subject will think it is or imagine it is
though seemingly real to them because of
being hypnotized and made to think it is
there for them upon death.
Essetntially it becomes a reoccuring dream
the subjects seems to think they are actually
living. Ever wake up from a good dream
scession ,say hay I want to go back there,so
yer cover yer heat with a pillow and try like
hell to return to where yer were just before
yer woke up!
When the suicide scumbager do their prayer
chants ,essentially praying to thier
currupted sub conscious self to be taken to
that place. Hence it is there because it was
put there.
It's not about religion, it is about the love
of death itself.Fear is removed through a
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 21:27:28
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OK so, hypnotic suggestion and control.
remember the suicide s[censored]bager gives
up power to other people whereas the
s[censored]bager serial killer or perophile
is all about power, power over their victims.
Pedophiles ,are the perfect example to use in
a comparative example of what occures in the
process. The regerstered pedophile sex
offender who has undergone some type of
treatment may be classified and one who is
least likely to reoffend. So the
s[censored]bag pedophile one day is on his
way to the store to be goods of necessity. In
the path choosen to the place where goods are
sold, a child crosses the pedophiles path.
The pedophile has been trained to avoid such
a situation, or dismiss the terrible thought
process that go down in their minds. But, the
pedophile after the commmission of the crime
will say, I had no pre meditated plan,it was
as if a light switch went on and suddenly it
happened as if to say the s[censored]bag
could not help it or stop it from happening.
After the deed is done, they say it was only
afer it happened that they realize what had
happened. So they fool theirselves into
thinking somehow they checked out of reality
temporarly. Or the light switch turned itself
back off afterwords.
Ever use a old wind up clock? Yer wind up the
spring too tight and what happens? It works
but it stops from time to time.
In the process of hypnotic conditioning that
wind up clock is induced into the subject.
The clock is very important in a concept to
understand just what happens to the suicide
s[censored]bager just before the dirty evil
deed goes down. And from there we can go down
into failed attempts with a better
understanding of how the process works.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 21:57:00
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Briefly now ,lets look at the educated
suicide scumbagers. The collage student
suicide scumbagers or the graduate student
suicide scumbaggers.
Lets look at the old wind up alarm clock.
what makes a person over wind the alarm
clock,knowing that if yer do ,chances are it
won't go off or it will stop when yer cannot
aford that.Doubt, the thought that you must
wake up at a certain time, the intensity
behind the endevor, nervousness, and you
yerself are at the same time whylst winding
the clock and supposed to be winding down to
prepare fer sleep.So what happens is yer are
doing something and thinking ever worrying
about something else,and in the process what
you do not want to happen does happen. The
main spring is wound too tight. The clock
will most likely malfunction. A terrorizing
thought .If it don't work and I am late fer
work or a appointment,terrible things may
happen.
The question of doubt if far more powerfull
an effect over the educated suicide scumbager
and because of the question, the question,
the intensity continuesly builds up and to
the terrorist operatives ,those that do the
conditioning ,the risk or the possibiltys of
failed attempts are greater. Because when
that clock stops as a result of having been
overwound, the question of doubt sets in and
takes over. Doubt can be very over powering.
Terrorist religious leader imans hate doubt
and people that are subject to it.
That old wind up alarm clock is the center of
the works. Imagine the alarm clock.And
imagine it being the detonator. And imagine
that being the finnal stage of the hypnotic
conditiioning process. The suicide scumbager
graduated the crash conditioning course. The
instalation of the wind up alarm clock.
And remember, the clock will eventually wind
itself down . When that happens the alarm is
useless. The alarm mode if the most important
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-03
Time: 23:30:07
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Who winds the clock? And how is it done.
Interesting is the history of the wrist
watch. The perfect time piece.Everything
about the perfect time piece perfectly
synchronized ,perfectly balanced.And flawless
movement.The lost trade of the watch maker.
Hence goes the saying perfect timing.
In reference to who winds the clock ,the
answer is simple where it is about the wind
up clock,you do. Or do you?
Going back in time inthe history of the wind
up clock or wrist watch, just befor the
miniature cell type battery came into
existence ,the self winding wrist watch was
one of last great innovations that came into
the perfect time piece. It was perfect ,it
was wound by the movement in yer wrist.And it
has or had a fail safe, it could not be over
wound.
Unless of course it were to fall into the
hands of a lunitic.Perfect can be too much of
a good thing for some people.So it breakes or
is destroyed.You have to know how to
appriciate perfection.
So, the suicide scumbager winds the clock as
it is self winding. And since there is a time
limit through hypnotic suggestion there muct
be a key work to start the process. The
winding of clock, so the key word inniciates
the process.After the process is inniciated
there must be key chant words aplied thorugh
their prayer chant rituals that become a fail
safe ,or is suppos'ed to be same as the fail
safe that prevents the self winding watch
from being over wound.
But it doesn't always work. And suicide
scumbagers have been known to back out of it
the last minute.
The question of doubt.So that means not all
suicide scumbagers are as stupid as they were
meant to be. Which means the question of
doubt knows no bounds.
In truth the question of doubt is the weak
link in the chain of events.That which will
lead to the end of their rain of terror.It
will be the truth that takes them down.
Simple and pure.The undeniable truth.Which
means there is a much larger clock ticking.
Invisable as it may be.Which means they are
the means to thier own end. But isn't that
the truth to begin with?
There is indeed a end in sight. What will
that do to thier religion?
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 05:31:03
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So how would they insert a wind up clock in
scumbag suiciders heads ?If yer were to
picture the process of conditioning using
hypnosis as a tool , and if yer were to
wonder just what makes them do what do. And
if yer know that they don't all do what they
brainwashed to do ,than you look a religous
cults and what we know about brain washing,
you begin to form a picture.
There is something very very odd about
suicide scumbagers. So what else is odd?
Pedophiles are odd.
Pedophiles and suicide scumbagers are odd in
very similar ways.Almost identical ways.
The pedophile says it was as if suddenly a
light switch turned itself on and something
or someone other took over .some will go on
to discribe it by saying ,it was as if I left
me body.Some call the it a entity.The it is
who they are.joe Duncan peodophile serial
killer/ Ted Bundy/the serial killer
necrophilia-, sex with dead body's. both
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 06:19:43
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When you look at some of the kinds of crimes
s[censored]bags like Ted Bundy or Joe Duncan
or Gary Ridgeway did, than yer looking dead
on at evil and the kind of evil the exists in
s[censored]bags and suicide
s[censored]bagers.UImaging than the ability
to detect that evil laying dormant,sort of
hibernating ,or perhaps slowely wakening
unbeknoweth to the shell of a person it hides
within. Because that is what they lable a
martyr. They give it a fancy deceptive
title.
Has to be a very age old practice.
Identifying sleeping evil.
Cultivated over many centurys and many wars
and much death and destruction and ruination.
Long before mordern psychologey.And at the
very roots of total deception and lies and
deciet.But is it really their secret? Or is
it just a matter of connecting the dots than
realizing what it is?Or what lies before
yer.Lies.It all comes down to lies.Living
lies. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 06:47:16
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BLASTER !
you are so PRECIOUS
to be fair only half of my writing is hot air
that is the quotes from the hadiths.
Considering how much of sharia law is made up
of the hadiths it is cruel that so many
people in the world suffer from midieval hot
air. 
OF COURSE
Dear BLASTER if you had any education you
would know
that the word PHILISTINE is the etymological
base of the word PALESTINE
I think you must be a southern right-wing
American red-neck fundamentalist who is just
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
hhbooker2
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 07:23:15
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Has anyone asked the question? Just why do
young men and women volunteer to commit
suicide and injure or kill strangers? Are
they poverty stricken frustrated people who
live in a nation with limited resourses and
see a privledged class who flash their wealth
while living in gated-communities with
private security forces to protect them? How
can we who live in nations that meet more of
our needs understand why other less fortunate
feel a need to sacrifice themselves? In the
war with the French in Algeria, Arab people
bombed French cafes and other places where
Europeans congregated and even now France and
Spain suffer because of the pressure-cooker
as the recent immigrants perform the worst
labour and live in places so old and decaying
that the people of France moved out of, it is
very visible to anyone who can see! They can
question the bombers who failed their
missions and do a psychological study and
arrive at a soultion. One used to hear of
Vietnamese (Indochina) sacrificing themselves
and now nothing in the media about Budhist
priests setting themselves ablaze or children
with explosive to take the lives of soldiers.
Maybe if we shared some of what we have with
the world's less fortunate and also keep out
the C.I.A. from during their mischief to stir
things up, in fact they should shut such
organizations down as there is no room for
people who want to be like Commander James
Bond, Agent 007! |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 07:38:20
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Basically and simply it is not a struggle of
the poor, this suicide scumbagr thing.
As yer know it is always the religious
leaders that tend to want to do everything
with their power to refuse change and block
change from taking hold.
As yer know change always finds a way
.Sometimes it just must force it's way
through.Creativity ,the same applies.
Change is at the door knocking ,ready to take
it's place. And the suicide scumbagers are
working for the oppisite of change.It's just
that way.So it's either change the cannon or
load the cannon, either way change will win.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 09:28:21
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as niagara
points out suicide bombing has nothing to do
with poverty. the 9/11 guys were mostly from
a middle class college educated background
the problem comes from that the massive
difference
between being a martyr and commiting
suicide
has been effectivelyblurred by cold hard
neo-fascist leaders of islam.
The idea of a martyr is old and somewhat
noble
A person of faith standing up for their
faith, unwavering, hoping not to die, hoping
to make a difference.
then being killed in or murdered by the
people they fight against.
IN ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM
you yourself do your own killing
just in case the opposition dont give a
monkey's uncle for your beliefs and ignore
you
and say run along little fellow.
Of course the fooled had to be convinced and
fooling and convincing is all part of Islam
BUT if they examined their faith the suicide
bomber who kills
himeself goes directly to hell and spends his
time being blown up
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 19:54:08
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Here is a question to yer doubt about how it
is suicide scumbagers are conditioned to
become what they are anyway. The Narcissist.
Hypnoisis has proven tobe a vry powerful tool
in the field of psychology regressive
hypnoisis.
Que. Hypnoisis is a usefull tool mordern
science has determined. Is hypnoisis a new
found thing recently discovered,or has it
been around for hundreds and thousands of
years?
What would be yer thoughts about that?And
isn't it concievable that hypnoisis can be
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
sunova20
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 20:02:13
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in all fairness I can see where some
extremist religeous views can be to such an
extent they feel death is ''acceptable''
they see it as a bid too fight evil,
everyhing we do in modern day britain can be
seen as a sin, and sin is probably the root
of all suffering and destruction.
the only way to stop this is too wipe out the
main cause and its probably the only way the
planet could ever be in harmany.
which is an impossibility , but.. they dont
care because they are nuts. they also beleive
the afterlife will be eternal life in paradie
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 20:09:41
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niagara
i think that hypnosis , per se, is not a tool
for the indoctrination of suicide bombers,
religious zeal is a powerful thing. most
faiths get the zeal of the faithful to do
good works. the very violent culture of
islam means it is easy to misguide the
faithful and the really nasty pieces of work
that teach the faith do the rest.
it is very bad for a muslim to kill himself
howsoever so
perhaps a somanbulistic state is induced and
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FROM THE DEATH OF mohammed to the
first crusade |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 20:17:16
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Current wisdom would have it that 'five
centuries of peaceful co-existence' between
Muslims and Christians were brought to an end
by 'political events and an imperial-papal
power play,' that was to lead to a
centuries-long series of so-called
"holy-wars" that pitted Christendom against
Islam, and left an enduring legacy of
misunderstanding and mistrust.'[1]
A school textbook, Humanities Alive 2, for
Year 8 students in the Australian State of
Victoria, carries the anti-Christian/anti
Western argument further:
Those who destroyed the World Trade Centre
are regarded as terrorists. Might it be fair
to say that the Crusaders who attacked the
Muslim inhabitants of Jerusalem were also
terrorists?[2]
Muhammad died in Medina on June 8, 632 AD.
The first of the eight Crusades to free the
Holy Places in Palestine from Muslim control,
and offer safe passage to the Holy Land for
Christian pilgrims, was called only in 1095.
At the risk of sounding pedantic, the period
in question is not 'five centuries,' but
four-hundred and sixty-three years; and those
years, we contend, were not characterised by
'peaceful coexistence'.[3]
Islam's attack on Christianity
For the Christian states bordering the
Mediterranean, it was a four-hundred and
sixty-three year period of regular,
disorganised [and occasionally organised]
bloody incursions by Muslim mainly Arab and
Berber land and sea forces. These came intent
on booty - gold, silver, precious stones and
slaves - on destroying churches, convents and
shrines of the 'infidels,' and on the spread
of politico-religious Islam throughout Europe
from their bases in the Mediterranean and the
Adriatic.
At the time of Mohammed's death there were
flourishing Christian and Jewish communities
in Arabia, and throughout the major centres
of the Persian Empire. The whole of the
Mediterranean world on its European, Asian
and African sides, was predominantly
Christian.
It had taken only a few years for Muslim
tribesmen from Arabia, inspired by Mohammed's
revelations and example, to invade the
Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire whose
emperors devoted more time to religious
disputation than to defending their empire.
In 633 Mesopotamia fell. After a few years
the entire Persian Empire fell to the
marauding Arab tribesmen who drove the young
Persian emperor Yazdagird into the farthest
reaches of his empire, to Sogdiana
[Uzbekistan], where he was eventually
murdered by his Tartar bodyguard in a
miller's hut.
Damascus fell in 635, and Jerusalem
capitulated five years after Muhammad died,
in February 638.
The fall of Alexandria in 643 sounded the
death knell of more than thousand years of
Hellenic civilisation that once enriched the
whole of the Near East with its scholarship
and culture. Henri Daniel-Rops claims that
from the point of view of the history of
civilisation, Alexandria's fall was as
significant as the fall of Constantinople to
the Turks eight-hundred years later.[4]
Cyprus fell in 648-9 and Rhodes in 653. By
698 the whole of North Africa was lost.
Spain invaded
Less than eighty years after Mohammed's
death, in 711, Muslims from Tangiers poured
across the 13 km wide strait of Gibraltar
into Spain. By 721 this Arab-Berber horde had
overthrown the ruling Catholic Visigoths and,
with the fall of Saragossa, set their sights
on southern France.
By 720 Narbonne had fallen. Bordeaux was
stormed and its churches burnt down by 'Abd
al-Rahman ibn Abdullah al-Ghafiqi in early
spring 732. A basilica outside the walls of
Poitiers was razed, and 'Abd al-Rahman headed
for Tours which held the body of St Martin
[who died in 397] apostle and patron saint of
the Franks.
He was to be defeated and killed by Charles
Martel and his Frankish army on a Saturday in
October, 732, one hundred years after
Mohammed's death, on the road from Poitiers
to Tours a defeat that was hailed by Gibbon
and others as decisive in turning back the
Muslim tide from Europe.
Attacks on France, however, continued, and in
734 Avignon was captured by an Arab force.
Lyons was sacked in 743. It wasn't until 759
that the Arabs were driven out of Narbonne.
Marseilles was plundered by them in 838.
Muslim incursions into Italy had been a
feature of life from the early 800s. The
islands of Ponza [off Gaeta] and Ischia [off
Naples] had been plundered, and then, in 813
Civitavecchia, the port of Rome, whose
harbour had been constructed by Trajan, was
sacked by the Arabs.
In 826 the island of Crete fell to Muslim
forces which retained it as their base until
961. From around 827 they then began nibbling
at Sicily. They captured Messina and
controlled the Strait of Messina by 842, and
finally took the whole island in 859, after
Enna fell to them.
In 836 the Neapolitans self-interestedly
invited the Muslim forces to help them
against the Lombards and set the stage for
more than a century of Muslims raids along
the Adriatic, involving the destruction of
Ancona, and Muslim progress as far as the
mouth of the Po. 'Saracen Towers'[5] south of
Naples, built in the ninth century to warn
locals of the approach of Arab fleets from
Sicily and Africa still charm visitors to the
Neapolitan coast.
Bari, now home to the relics of St Nicholas
of Myra, the original 'Father Christmas,'
fell to Khalfun, a Berber chieftan, by
another act of treachery in 840. From 853-871
the notorious Muslim brigand al- Mufarraj bin
Sallam, and his successor, another Berber
named Sawdan, controlled all the coast from
Bari down to Reggio Calabria, and terrorized
Southern Italy. They even plundered the Abbey
of St Michael on Mt Gargano. They claimed the
title of Emir, and independence of the Emir
in Palermo.
Sacking of St Peter's
Naples herself had to beat off a Muslim
attack in 837. But in 846 Rome was not to be
so fortunate. On August 23rd 846, Arab
squadrons from Africa arrived at Ostia, at
the Tiber's mouth. There were 73 ships. The
Saracen force numbered 11,000 warriors, with
500 horses.[6]
The most revered Christian shrines outside
the Holy Land, the tombs of Sts Peter and
Paul, were desecrated and their respective
Basilicas were sacked, as was the Lateran
Basilica along with numerous other churches
and public buildings.
The very altar over the body of St Peter was
smashed to pieces, and the great door of St
Peter's Basilica was stripped of its silver
plates. Romans were desolated and Christendom
was shocked at the barbarism of the Muslim
forces.
Three years later Pope Leo IV [847-855]
formed an alliance with Naples, Amalfi and
Gaeta, and when a Saracen fleet again
appeared at the mouth of the Tiber in 849,
the Papal fleet joined forces with its allies
and they repelled the Muslim fleet which
turned, and ran into a violent wind-storm
that destroyed it, like Pharaoh's army long
before.
Survivors were brought to Rome and put to
work helping to build the Leonine Wall around
the Vatican. Twelve feet thick, nearly forty
feet in height and defended by forty-four
towers, most of this wall, and two of the
round towers, can be seen still by visitors
to the Vatican. These defensive walls were
finished and blessed by Pope Leo IV in 852.
Taranto in Apulia was conquered by Arab
forces in 846. They held it until 880.
In 870 Malta was captured by the Muslims. In
871 Bari, the Saracens' capital on mainland
Italy, was recaptured from the Muslims by
Emperor Louis II, who in 872 was to defeat a
Saracen fleet off Capua.
223 years from the First Crusade
At this point in our examination of the
'peaceful coexistence,' which is made much of
by Muslim apologists, we are still
two-hundred and twenty-three years away from
the calling of the first Crusade. Perhaps
readers may better understand, now, why
Emperor Louis II, grandson of Charlemagne was
absolutely convinced, in the ninth century,
of the need for a Crusade. 'He was quite sure
that Islam must be driven right out of
Europe.'[7] But still there was no call for a
Crusade.
I haven't spoken of Muslim attacks against
the Byzantine Empire even though these, too,
played a part in setting the stage for the
Crusades. The much vaunted military might and
political power of the Eastern Roman Empire
carried with it responsibility for protecting
the West from Muslim invaders. This it
generally failed to do.
Constantinople had been attacked in 673, and
then for the next five years Arab armies and
fleets attempted unsuccessfully to break
through the Byzantine defences. 'Greek Fire,'
that mysterious substance that burned on
water, destroyed the Muslim fleets and won
the day for the defenders.
Then, in 717, the Muslims returned to the
attack, emboldened by their successes in
Spain.
Fate intervened, and like Charles Martel and
his Franks at Poitiers in 732, emperor Leo
the Isaurian [717-740] turned back the Muslim
tide. Constantinople was saved - for a time.
Leo, for all his military skills, was a
usurper, and an iconoclast. Despite defeating
the Muslims, his policies ultimately further
weakened both the Western and Eastern Roman
Empires.
In 870, when Bernard the Wise from Brittany
wanted to visit Palestine he had to obtain a
laissez-passer from Muslim authorities in
Bari, on the Adriatic Coast.[8]
In 873 the Muslim forces devastated Calabria
in southern Italy to the point that it was
reduced to the state 'in which it had been
left by the Great Flood' and the Saracens
expressed their intention of destroying Rome,
the city of the 'Petrulus senex,' 'the
ineffective old man, Peter'.[9]
In 874 Pope John VIII did all he could to
dissuade Amalfi, Naples, Benevento, Capua,
Salerno, and Spoleto from forming a pragmatic
alliance with the Saracens. Amalfi, Capua and
Salerno alone heeded his pleas for Christian
solidarity.
From the close of 876 Pope John VIII had been
sending letters in all directions to obtain
help against the Arab forces which were
devastating southern Italy and even
threatening Rome itself. He sought the aid of
Duke Bosone of Milan whom Emperor Charles the
Bald had appointed his legate in Northern
Italy - to no avail. He wrote for cavalry
horses to Alfonso III, king of Galicia in
Spain; and for warships to the Byzantines,
and from 876 until May 877 he sent numerous
letters to the Frankish Emperor begging him
to aid the Catholics in Italy.
The Emperor proved to be a frail reed, and in
879, upon his death, the Duke of Spoleto
turned on the Pope. John VIII, unable to cope
with both Saracens and Spoleto, at once, had
to pay tribute of 25,000 mancuses annually to
the Arabs. A silver mancus was worth roughly
AUD$25. This situation lasted for two years.
In 881 the Muslim allies of the Neapolitans
captured the fortress on the Garigliano [the
ancient Liris] 14 km east of Gaeta close to
Anzio, just north of Naples, and plundered
the surrounding countryside with impunity for
forty years.
Returning from a synod at Ravenna [February
882] Pope John VIII found, as he put it, that
'the Saracens are as much at home in Fundi
[close to Rome, in Latium] and Terracina' [80
km SE of Rome] as in Africa. 'Though we were
seriously unwell,' wrote the Pope, we went
forth to battle with our forces, captured
eighteen of the enemy's ships, and slew a
great many of their men'.[10] Six hundred
captives of the Saracens were liberated.
Syracuse fell to the Muslims in 878 after a
nine-month siege from which few escaped
alive. The Byzantine city was pillaged and
destroyed. Its collapse freed-up more
numerous bands of marauding Muslims to harry
the Italian towns and cities.
880 saw victory over Saracen forces at Naples
by Byzantine Commanders and also the arrival
in waters off Rome of warships sent by the
emperor Basil to give the Pope the means of
defending 'the territory of St Peter'.[11]
Meanwhile, the Saracens had turned their
attention again to southern France and
northern Italy. They had taken Avignon in 734
and Marseilles in 838 and they were ravaging
Provence and North Italy from their bases in
the Alps. The most important of these bases
was Fraxineto or Frejus, not far from Toulon,
which they captured in 889.
They were displaced temporarily from their
base in 942 by Hugh of Arles who had a
Byzantine fleet harry them from the sea,
while he attacked from land. Horace Mann
comments[12] that it is symptomatic of the
kind of pragmatic leaders who controlled the
destiny of Europe at that time, that instead
of wiping out this bloodthirsty band of
Muslim invaders, Hugh allowed them to stay
where they were on condition that they did
all they could to prevent his rival as 'king
of Italy,' Berengerius Marquis of Ivrea, from
returning to Italy.
The latter managed to return from Germany to
Italy in 945, and the Muslims were not to be
expelled completely from their lair until 972
- almost one-hundred years after capturing
Fraxineto - by a league of Italian and
Provencal princes.
In the meantime they infested the passes of
the Alps, robbing and murdering pilgrims on
their way to Rome. In 921 a large band of
Englishmen, on pilgrimage to the tombs of the
Apostles in Rome, were crushed to death under
rocks rolled down on them by Saracens in the
passes of the Alps.[13]
174 years from the First Crusade
At this point in the alleged peaceful
coexistence between Muslims and Christians,
we are still one-hundred and seventy-four
years away from the calling of the first
Crusade to free the Holy Places.
Meanwhile, Muslim fleets sacked and destroyed
Demetrias in Thessaly, Central Greece, in
902, and Thessalonica the second city of the
Byzantine Empire fell to them in 904. Muslim
armies took Hysela in Carsiana in 887, and
Amasia, the metropolitan city of Pontus in
Asia Minor.
The bishop of Amasia named Malecenus wanted
to ransom those of his people who had been
captured but knew that the Byzantine Emperor
Leo VI would not help; so he appealed to Pope
Benedict IV in Rome.
The Pope received him kindly, and gave him an
encyclical letter addressed to all bishops,
abbots, counts and judges and to all orthodox
professors of the Christian faith asking them
to show Malacenus every consideration, and to
see him safely from one city to the next.
In 905 Pope Sergius III helped Bishop
Hildebrand of Silva Candida restore some of
the damage done to his See by the ravaging
Saracens who had devastated the Church of
Silva Candida in the neighbourhood of Rome.
In 915 Pope John X successfully created a
Christian League with the help of Byzantine
Admiral Picingli and his fleet. Even the
bickering princes of southern Italy joined
forces against the Saracens, along with King
Berengarius and his armies from North Italy.
The enemy were holed-up in their fortresses
on the Garigliano near Gaeta, north of
Naples. After three months of blockade, they
tried to fight their way out only to be
repelled by a victorious Christian force.
In 934 the Fatimid imam al-Ka'im planned an
audacious invasion of Liguria led by Ya'kub
bin Ishaq. The latter attacked Genoa that
year, and took it in 935.
It wasn't until 972 that Duke William of
Provence succeeded in driving the Saracens
finally from the fastnesses of Faxineto. In
976 the Fatimid Caliphs of Egypt had sent
fresh Muslim expeditions into southern Italy.
Initially the German emperor Otho II , who
had set up his headquarters in Rome,
successfully defeated these Saracen forces,
but in July 982 he was ambushed and his army
was almost cut to pieces.
In 977 Sergius, Archbishop of Damascus, was
expelled from his See by the Muslims. Pope
Benedict VII gave him the ancient church of
St Alexius on Rome's Aventine hill, and he
founded a monastery there and placed it under
Benedictine rule, with himself its first
abbot.
The pontificate of Pope John XVIII
[1003-1009] was marred by famine and plague
and by marauding bands of Saracens who
plundered the Italian coast from Pisa to Rome
from bases on Sardinia.
By 1010 they had seized Cosenza in southern
Italy. Then Sardinia fell to the Arabs in
1015, led by a certain Abu Hosein Mogehid
[thus the Latin Chronicles]. I take this
person to be Mujahid bin 'Abd Allah whom Arab
sources credit with the invasion. The Saracen
force based on Sardinia, over the next few
years, torched Pisa, seized Luna in northern
Tuscany, and ravaged the land. Pope Benedict
VIII managed to assemble a fleet and
challenged the Saracen chief who turned tail
and fled to Sardinia, leaving his fleet at
the mercy of the papal force which was
victorious.
Mujahid bin 'Abd Allah then sent the Pope a
bag of chestnuts and a message that he would
arrive in the following summer with as many
soldiers as there were nuts in the bag.
Benedict accepted the chestnuts and sent back
a bag of rice: 'If your master,' he said to
the astonished messenger, 'isn't satisfied
with the damage he has done to the dowry of
the Apostle, let him come again and he will
find an armed warrior for every grain of
rice'.
The Pope did not wait for an answer but
carried the war into the enemy's territory.
He co-opted the combined fleets of Pisa and
Genoa and they sailed for Sardinia in 1017
only to find Mujahid in the act of crucifying
Christians on Sardinia. The Muslim leader
fled to Africa, and Sardinia was occupied by
the Pisans. Mujahid kept trying to re-take
Sardinia until 1050 when he was captured by
the Pisans and the island was made over to
them by the Pope.
Muslims from Spain sacked Antibes in 1003.
They sacked Pisa in 1005 and 1016, and
Narbonne in 1020.
Sometime around 1025 Pope John XIX granted
the pallium [sign of Ecclesiastical
jurisdiction] to Archbishop Peter of Gerona
in northeast Spain, on condition that he
redeemed Christian captives of the Saracens
as he had promised the Pope when he had come
on his 'ad limina' visit.
The First Crusade what made it a reality
The four-hundred and sixty-three years that
elapsed between Mohammed's death in 632 and
the calling of a Crusade to free the Holy
Places in 1095 was not a time of 'peaceful
co-existence' between Muslims and European or
Byzantine Christians. Nor was it, for
Christians living in Muslim-occupied
territories. They enjoyed 'peace' only by
keeping the lowest possible profile, paying
the jizya, or head-tax, and accepting
nonperson status in lands that had been
Christian before the Muslim invaders
arrived.
The new millennium saw the situation go from
bad to worse. In 1009 the Fatimid Caliph of
Egypt, abu-'Ali Mansur al-Hakim, ordered the
destruction of the Holy Sepulchre in
Jerusalem. The edict of destruction was
signed by his Christian secretary ibn-'Abdun.
The Muslims destroyed the Tomb of Jesus, the
Dome and the upper parts of the Church until
their demolition was halted by the great
mound of debris at their feet. For eleven
years Christians were forbidden even to visit
the rubble or to pray in the ruins.
Shocked by the destruction of Christendom's
holiest Shrine, Pope Sergius IV appealed for
help to go to Palestine to rebuild it. His
appeal fell on deaf ears.
At the beginning of the fifth century, two
hundred years before Muhammad appeared, there
were seven-hundred Catholic bishops in
Africa.[14] Two hundred of them attended the
Council of Carthage in 535 AD. By the middle
of the 900s there were forty left. By 1050,
as a result of 'peaceful coexistence,' there
were only five left. In 1076 there were two.
We learn this from a letter that Pope Gregory
VII, 'Hildebrand,' wrote to Cyriacus,
Archbishop of Carthage in June 1076. As three
bishops are needed for the valid consecration
of another bishop Gregory asked him to send a
suitable priest to Rome who could be
consecrated assistant bishop, so that he
[Cyriacus] and Servandus, bishop of Buzea in
Mauritania, and the new bishop could
consecrate other bishops for the African
Catholics.[15]
Gregory VII, on his deathbed in 1085, dreamt
of forming a Christian League against Islam
and said, 'I would rather risk my life to
deliver the Holy Places, than govern the
Universe'.[16]
It seems to have been the Seljuk Turkish
capture of Jerusalem in 1076 that finally
swung the balance, exhausted the patience of
the European Christians, and fulfilled
Gregory's wish. Pilgrimage to the Holy Places
had became more difficult; a poll-tax was
imposed on visitors. Those who dared journey
there were harassed, robbed and some even
enslaved.
At the Council of Piacenza summoned by Pope
Urban II and held in March 1095, Byzantine
delegates emphasized the danger facing
Christendom from Muslim expansion, and the
hardship facing Eastern Christians until the
infidel be driven back.[17] They repeated an
appeal made by Emperor Alexius to Robert of
Flanders asking him to return to the East
with some knights to assist the Byzantines in
their struggle with the Muslims.
Towards the end of that same year, Urban II,
at another Council held at Claremont in
France, took up the suggestion, and urged
Europe's Christians to 'Take the road to the
Holy Sepulchre ... let each one deny himself
and take up the Cross'. The Assembly rose to
its feet and shouted 'God wills it'.
Muhammad died on June 8, 632 AD. It had taken
four hundred and sixty three years for
Europe's Christians to combine their forces
and rise up in defence of themselves and of
their Faith.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 20:22:39
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As we can see
the christians had the flaming cheek to
actually fight back agains hundreds of years
of muslim violence
perhaps not a very "christian" thing to do
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 20:57:19
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Interesting historical acounting M.W.
It does lack how the very nature of war
changed in progression over the years.
The thing about war is that time is not on
either side.Waiting is not an option.
Terrorist cells are always being sought
out,and so the process of conditioning must
be expediated.Suicide scumbagers are not in
abundence the way you think. In their minds
,the faithful believers may think they are
most willing and eager to give it up. Of
their minds and being consumed with hate they
think so. But fallowing through with that
committment is much easier believed than is
fallowing through with it. The nervous system
for example . Under stress persons do not
function well at all.
The question of doubt is another factor,
changes of mind another.
Do not be fooled by their religion.
All human beings are subject to human
conditions.
It is only through a altered state those
scumbager suiciders are able to carry out the
evil deeds.
And the process of conditining is even more
evil and I dare say the the methods applied
are ancient.
Don't yer know evil is as old as the earth
and older?Dark forces and narcissism.
The narcissist are called forword through
evil rituals.
The ancient dark practices.
In science negitive forces there are no
explinations for. There are positive forces
as well.
Make no mistake about it, Dark forces are the
motivation and the driving force in command
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2010-01-04
Time: 22:26:47
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Have you ever thought?we all ways associate
the color Black with evil?the evil that lurks
in the dead of night the Dark one,the Dark
Angle of Death and so on.Those that do evil
now in the name of Islam use this colour as a
back ground to there flags and so forth.Is
this proof that there flag is the flag of
Satan the Dark Angle him self.I wonder,just a
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
freddo1939
Date:
2010-01-05
Time: 16:13:09
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What I fail to understand is , why do they
want to kill everyday human beings going
about their everyday lives-- ppl completely
innocent.. Surely they should be attacking
the Bushes and Blairs of this world, not the
ordinary Mr. & Mrs and their kids... They
have plenty to go at ... Kissinger, Colin
Powell, Blairs foreign minister whoever he
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-05
Time: 20:17:05
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well after that right wing dribble
im off to go actually do something productive
in society rarther then sit on my butt in
pubs complaining about things i have no grasp
of. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-05
Time: 20:57:29
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Now is not the time to jump down the rabbit
hole blaster bunny ,yer must concentrate yer
efforts on hightening yer awareness.
S[censored]bags are everywhere.
M.W. is trying to educate yer.Yer should
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-05
Time: 21:19:54
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Keepers Of The Evil Looking Glass.
In the heat it all through the spreading
terrorist propaganga ,there will always be
much radical support drumed up and volumteers
come out from under the rocks believing they
must become a part.
When that happens along with the believers
who think they will make good myrturs are
actually denied and put to use in other
areas.Where it is about faithfully blowing
yerself up without hesitation only the true
full blow narcissist can fill the billet. But
along with the believers the scumbag
narcissist too will think to believe that
myrturism might just buy them a place on the
old imaginary transparent stairway to heaven.
After all it's only death the narcissist will
think.
The looking glass allows the the evil
recruiters to look throuh all the newly
formed recruits pin pointing the
narcissist;s, the true gems in the suicide
scumbager assult force.
The looking glass is a instrument of the age
old dark practices of mid eastern religious
underground culture.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-05
Time: 21:35:59
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The gems of the masses may too think they
devout belivers . In their walk in life they
may live as though they are,or to live a
devout life. The closet narcissist.
The scumbager that don't know yet.
The ancient evil looking glass allows the
evil recruiter or imen or uncle on high ,a
powerfull family that oversees all family
matters. Many brothers ,many sisters ,many
offspring of them all and many children of
children. The overseer of the extended family
picks out the ones to donate to the verious
wevil causes. The looking glass allows the
one who over sees to look behind the mask the
closet narcissist hides behind.Although the
mask is invisible as is the looking glass.
Rather than the missfit living on to discrace
the family ,the missfit is donated to the
dark side to serve dark causes or evil.But
durning mass recruitment,the gems just come
out from underneith the rocks to become a
part. gives them a chance to mix and mingle,
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-06
Time: 17:24:55
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Sex offender treatment programmes teach the
convicted pedophile or rapist how to get
inbetween what yer can call temptation or
that erge to reoffend by showing thescumbags
how to view or how to look at the early
warning signs as it goies down in their
minds. for the offender it is almost as if
they are taught how to play chess with
theirselves with their erges being the
opponent. A method of keeping the erges in
check. Of course sucess rate is about as
questionable as it gets.
Two no no's are drugs and alcohol. substance
use and abuse will inhance the erges those
scumbags have as finding will show.
Some sex offender treatment programmes
actually have porn web sites fer the
offenders to watch under controled
circumstances, it is thought that helps to
relieve the erges through a passification
process.
You will note that suicide scumgagers for
some reason are found out to be patrons of
strip pubs ,and known to ingage in sex for
hire activities. They are or have been seen
at such places using alcohol and drugs, all
of which ir the very reverse of their
religious teachings.
After indulging in the activities the
scumbagers will go into a prayer chant mode.
A ritual designed to fool their minds .
So the sex offender treatment programmes are
about deterrence,teaching the sex offender to
find a fork in the road or path to chance
direction by.
And the rituals the suicide scubagers preofrm
are designed to keep the scumgagers on track,
in direct line with the scumbag suicide
terorist act.
The door swings both ways.
This area is a area the dots as it is are not
yet connected.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-06
Time: 20:04:37
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Now, to fallow this yer may look to yer
google skills and look up serial killers Gary
Ridgeway, Joe Duncan and John Wane Gacy.
To get mind wrap about the true reason the
suicide scumbagers do whatthey and how they
manage hide what they are to from
family,friends ,associates and so on. Also
the very depths of decption which by the way
is how the narcissist psychopath is assigned
a number on a scale of evil.Itis not a 1 to
10 scale but 10 is a high number.
Scumbager deception is not just about the
scumbagers ability to deceive the people they
have contact with,deception is also a working
functional tool for the scumbagers in the
form of self deception.
Scumbagers live in diffeent modes, of those
there is the deceptive every day person
personna or the act of seeming to be the same
as most anybody, exception they are groomers,
They show you exceptionl kindness ,always
willing to help. Thats what they show you. If
contact is extended over lenghts of time, the
scumbagers true self may tend to force its
way through. Under such circumstances yer may
see in just a glimps ,almost as if it were
something yer saw from the corner of yer
eye,the predator.They only show you what they
want you to see. Only the scumbagers victims
see the full blown scumbager in full blown
predator mode.
John Wane Gacy, the Chicago serial killer. He
was clown for charity amung other things. He
was even photographed with Jimmy Carter's
wife and give a award fer his charity clown
work. In truth he was a pedophile mass
murderer. He liked them in their late teens.
Remember the lone narcissist psychopath
murdering scumbager is all about power of
victims and power of people through
deception. Power over life and death.
Yer will read about the bodies the
authorities uncovered in Gacy's basement over
years of his murderous rain.
The suicide terrorist scumbager through
conditioning is a one time blast, everything
released at the same time. totely in the
moment. But all pdreator scumbags live in the
moment. From the moment the scumbag goes into
predator mode. And it happens in a snap
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-06
Time: 20:33:20
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Serial killers are a raw sort, they don't try
to fool theirselves through their
imaginations, they kill fer pure pleasure. A
power thrill from which they gain much
gratification.
The only fantasy's those scumbagers have
about it is replaying the the terrible deeds
they have done in their minds ,like watching
movies over and over again.
But the suicide scumbagers have their own
kind of odd. suicide terorist scumbagers
imagine themselves climbing a imaginary
transparent stairway to heaven. They see
theirselves sitting around a pleasure pool
with their feet dangling in the pleasure pool
waters absorbing pleasure unlike any
imaginable in the world they are to depart.
The see themselves at the pleasure pool
sitting with fellow suicide scumbagers and
religious leaders who influenced them
all,there at the pleasure pool, pleasurably
drinking tea with honey in it basking
themselves in total bliss .All having been
rewarded with pleasurable eternal life of
total bliss.
But if yer were to think about it, fer the
narcissist to be willing give up power, the
true scumbager self, the level of deception
being used on the scumbager must be greater
than any psychopath is capable of
constructing in their minds. They are nothing
more than instruments of evil and are no
match fer pure evil. That is why they give it
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-06
Time: 21:48:23
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So, what the suicide scumbager is doing when
in commisssion of the suicide mission is
taking away for their own loss, the loss of
power because of having given it over to evil
itself, nothing more. That is nothing more
than revenge.Revenge motivated mass murder.
Imagine two prison convicts, one a suicide
terrorist scumbager who does prayer chants
ten times oa day,and the other a lone srial
killer that kills fer pure evil pleasure.
Most serial killers never give up information
about just how many deaths they are
responsible fer or where all the bodies
are.They keep it locked up only to be player
and replayed in their minds over and over
again ,that is how they continue to gain
pleasure and gratification. And to give up
the whereabouts of the bodies or to fully
confess to all the murderrous crimes they
have committed, that would be giving up
power, power over their capters and power
over the families of the victims ,or power
itself.Scumbags are about power.
The difference of course between the scumbag
serial killer or the scumbag pedophile,
pedophiles crimes are murder in a very
different sense.
so the only difference is that the serial
killer murderous scumbags have passed through
all the stages/or phases and completely
imbraced theirselves for the evil beings that
they are.
Whereas the suicide terrorist scumbager
remains under the influence of the pure evil
they willingly gave themselves to ,or over
to. So, the the serial killer scumbag laughs
at that because the other scumbag don't know.
So the murderous scumbag serial killer waits
and watches fer the scumbag suicider to pass
through the phases and fully imbrace what
they truely are. Imagine the conversations
between the two scumbags inbetween prayer
chants or those rituals.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
hhbooker2
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 02:51:54
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Maybe both types of mass murderers are just
misunderstood individuals crying out? They
are both model prisoners and don't make
trouble inside prison and keep to themselves,
don't they? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 05:14:21
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Predators do keep to themselves but in a
different way. They keep to themselves
becauuse they ae introverted ,stands to
reason given all they got to hide. Crying out
yer say. Well, more like being filled with
self pity.They want everything in this world
they can get out it and you should you cross
the predators path. They are exstremely
manipulative and have no conscience. And
there is no way you can understand them. Even
if you think you do, nothing can prepare yer
for the things those predators are capable of
doing. you can study all about them ,even gt
yer PHD doctorate, But noth'en can prepare
yer fer kind of terrible things those
scumbags do.The experience will confirm
everything yer already know, but nothing can
prepare yer to deal with what they are first
hand. And professinals will say the same
thing about that. But it will make you
become tough as nails.
Freedom for them shouldn't be an option ever.
Time stands still for them durning
incarceration. If or when they are let loose,
they pick up right where they left off and
that is the truth.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
freddo1939
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 17:04:14
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as all sensible people know--- there is no
god or gods-- no afterlife -- so these stupid
misguided fools, kill themselves, depriving
themselves( and others) of their one chance
of life on this beautiful earth of ours.
They seem to believe they are going to some
mystic place full of (the inevitable) bunch
of virgins--- the actual truth is.. THEY JUST
SPREAD THEMSELVES ACROSS A WALL IN TINY
LITTLE BITS-- END OF...... serves them right
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 17:17:34
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There is much about scumbags and suicide
scumbagers that is misunderstood. That is
because certain connections for some odd
reasons are just not made. Thats about
connecting the dots.
The pedophile scumbag or the serial killer
scumbags for example. There is a element in
pattern that will cross connect between the
two types of scumbags and scumbagers of
suicide. In a much larger picture iit can or
will connect into all of the muslim beliefs
which is further roots down into narcissism.
When pedophiles are locked up in the prisions
,research shows that the pedophiles being
locked up or having been locked up fer
extended periods of time will have little or
not effect along the lines of changing
behavior patterns. Essentially that means
consequences for their evil acts mean
nothing. Fallowup studies show that the
scumbags just adapt to life in incarceration
and time for them stands still.Time in
passing means nothing .
And upon realeas they simply pick up right
where they left off just as though a mear few
days had passed ,not three years or five
years or even ten years. And of course those
scumbags come out of the prisons worse than
they were when the went in, as it true for
many or most convicts. So the scumbags learn
from one another , and the scum resinates
throuh the scumbags such as a the aroma of
cooking and baking will pass through the
house and even out into the yard.
Clearly time does not really stand still, but
for some people it can and will.
Now some people that have left Iran or Iraq
for example, and specificly woman that have
will clearly state that they never want to
return to thouse countries or their former
country because the do not want to return to
life as it were in the 17 th. century which
is how they describe life and conditions in
the country or countries they abandoned or
yer might say flead fer their sanity.
Opression.
Time stands still just like it does fer the
pedophile in prison.And the same as it always
does fer the narcissist psychopath where ever
they are on earth. So time stans still fer
the suicide scumbager ,and thats just the way
they like it.Time means nothing at all, They
are not sick ,they are evil, they are not
missunderstood ,they are evil, they are not
old, they are evil.
Therefore it is not their religion that
propells then to be what that is ,it is evil
that does than, and evil they are to begin
with.
But evil hides, and the scumbags the do the
recruiting know how to find it. simply put,
evil can not be used fer good. Even the
belivers can connect those dots.
But fer some reason those dots go on
unconnected ,simple as it would be to connect
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 17:25:32
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niagara
on a paedo note it is interesting to recall
that the Mohammed Prophet of islam married a
7 year old and stuck it to her when she was
9.
allowing all the sicko paedos in Islamic
countries to do the same.
A faith that looks on preverts as normal
would easily allow any other perversion to be
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 17:32:48
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So research shows that time stands still fer
the s[censored]bag pedophile in the
prisons,and so that means punishment means
nothing to them.
Givin those s[censored]bags are evil , it
will stand to reason time stands still for
those s[censored]bags always.
I think on the by and large ,that is the
problem.Suicide s[censored]bagers are in
abundence fer one reason and one reason
only.
Change be the solution to the sickening
problem.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 17:40:15
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M.W. perhaps yer can provide some text
reference to that end on this thread. I am
researching specific areas and making cross
comparisons.
I have read some pretty far streached
arguments from some of our good friends of
the muslim community down that particular
subject line, one being that the life span
was shorter. Although that view to it is
about as lame as it gets. As we know the rate
of maturity did not excellerate as a result
of a shorter life span.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 18:26:12
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yes Niagara
the ability of muslims to make excuses for
paedophile behaviour is nausiating
ubiquitous. Sexual maturity seems to depend
on good nutrition and in Uk it has got
younger in most recent years.
The excuse of a short lifespan is foolish. In
olden days people lived for about the same
spans as we do... (three score and ten)
but child mortality dragged the average
expected life span down.
from Sahih Bukhari, Book 62
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract)
with 'Aisha while she was six years old and
consummated his marriage with her while she
was nine years old and she remained with him
for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence
of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used
to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to
enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide
themselves, but the Prophet would call them
to join and play with me. (The playing with
the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time,
as she was a little girl, not yet reached the
age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143,
Vol.13
the following show what a lad allah was
Volume 9, Book 87, Number 140:
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown
to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken
piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover
(her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must
happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel
carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and
I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold,
it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is
from Allah, then it must happen.' "
Some Muslims claimed that Muhammad did not
initiate the marriage with Aisha, but that
Abu Bakr, after Aisha was spunned by a
prospector and was not able to find another
man to marry her, approached Muhammad to
marry here. However, the following hadith
clearly showed that it was Muhammad who was
the initiator and Abu Bakr was even shocked
at that suggestion.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand
in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your
brother." The Prophet said, "You are my
brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet
departed to Medina. He stayed there for two
years or so and then he married 'Aisha when
she was a girl of six years of age, and he
consumed that marriage when she was nine
years old.
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of
six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at
the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then
I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my
hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman,
came to me while I was playing in a swing
with some of my girl friends. She called me,
and I went to her, not knowing what she
wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand
and made me stand at the door of the house. I
was breathless then, and when my breathing
became Allright, she took some water and
rubbed my face and head with it. Then she
took me into the house. There in the house I
saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes
and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then
she entrusted me to them and they prepared me
(for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's
Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my
mother handed me over to him, and at that
time I was a girl of nine years of age.
ETC ETC ETC
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 19:04:56
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There is a cetain twisted perverted
accounting of what may have happened . On the
other hand the it could be a age old evil
rewrite tailored to suite the pacification of
the masses given the rulers desire fer
warriors in their conquest of death
destruction and ruination over the years.
Scumbager will do what ever what ever is
asked or required of them in exchange fer
what they want. The scumbags are always
faithful to who ever grants them their
desires ,by it money,work ,housing/lodging
,or what ever else and in particular a free
pathway to fill their evil desires.
However it does seem to paint what they call
a propfit as a manipulator filled with sick
twisted perverted fantasy's and a child
molester.
Clearly in the text the element of deception
is there.
Can you continue the text picking up at ect.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 19:31:32
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The pedophile /child molester being loyal to
providers is indeed a central point to focus
on when finding reason for the kinds to dirty
deeds the s[censored]bag will do for those
who provide.Not so many years ago,as time
moves on by the by, child molestation was a
hush hush topic in the average house hold.
Not to the point of a forbidin topic ,but the
unthinkable. Or too terrible to think about.
On the by and large the crime sprees those
s[censored]bags have been doing over the last
thirty fourty years has changed that. Today
every parent is moreso protective of the
children as a result of a gross escalation of
child molestation crimes. And media coverage
has assisted in public awareness a great
deal.
In the last thirty years we or society as a
whole has come to know very much about the
devious behavior of pedophiles and the masks
of deception that seem to be a built in
defencive or survival tool. They only show
you what they want you see. Only the victims
can look upon the true face of the predator
rapist murdering pedophile.Or the serial
killer.Given the energy those s[censored]bags
expend to to maintain the the image/the
portrait of a perfectly good person they
strive to show the every day world in thier
walk in it, when those s[censored]bags come
out from behind their masks comletely, the
evil in them flows freely through like water
flowing through a pipe.
The surviving victims become subject to post
trumatic stress for a life time as a result
of that . Sure it is a surpressed thought or
experience ,but the same as a very bad drug
reaction,there are sideeffects. Another gray
area, that is murder or attempted murder of
the mind and well being.
The pedophile is indeed all about
death,destruction and ruination by very
nature.
Clearly yer can see why anchient rulers and
s[censored]bag power moungers and evi mid
eastern imens would find it necessary to
round up as many of the s[censored] of the
earth as they can. and that no doubt factors
to justwhy it is change is so ruthlessly
fought off. Making time stand still
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 20:05:00
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Now than, having discussed scumbag pedophiles
are loyal to providers the cross connection
goes over to suicide scumbagers.
Remember pedophiles are deceptive,
manipulators, liers and evil by nature,or are
the reverse of life. Death/destruction and
ruination defines the pedophile purpose in
life.A genitic defect the animals kill off at
birth or shortly after upon showing the
signs.
And of course loyal to providers, as a rule,
unbeknoweth to the providers because only a
pedophile would provide fer another pedophile
knowingly.Or one who is a instrument of evil
would, knowingly.
To cross coneect the dots, after suicide
scumbagers complete suicide scumbager
training they call that, but it seems the
training is much more . From the looking
glass to those that preform the evil rituals
over the the suicide scumbagers . The ritual
that brings forword the latent narcissist or
the closet narcissist. The death loving
scumbag.
The scumbags are loyal to providers. Of their
minds thoae scumbags already believe their
verson of God is all providing. Of their
minds by law and religion. Therefore seeming
to believe whole heartedly and even be
devout, to the predator/narcissist is a built
in survuval tool. The evil imens of course
know that. That iswhy they are intrusted with
the knowledge of the symbolic ancient evil
looking glass. The looking glass allows to
looker within to idenify the inner being ,or
to have a look behind the mask,which is also
built in as a survival tool of a sort. Or
defencive mechanism.
A scumbag could have been identified as early
as age six, and by age nine, the seed could
or would or will be planted.The seed.
The seed no doubt is planted by or through
hypnotic suggestion. That way the scumbag
don't know it is even there,consciously or
subconsciously,or sub consciously the scumbag
sees something goog in the form of something
aquired or to be aquired .It therefore must
be of evil content.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 20:39:19
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So the seed must be something the evil sub
conscious of the scumbag sees that offers or
will offer gratification and gain as the
predator or the true predator acknowledges
gain. That gain is material ,not of any other
world but the world of the here and now. And
the world of the here and not is the only
world the predator will ever acknowledge.And
so what is in that evil seed must be more
like opium or a opiumate.Pleasing and
gratifying.Something that offers much
gratification in the here and now, because
nothing else matters to the predator.
This I think factors in to the the scicide
scumbagers being seen in strip clubs drinking
beer ,drinking whiskey and induldging in sex
for hire. In the body those scumbags may not
begaining complete pleasure and full
gratification by the experience, but by
indulging in sex and drugs and alcohol and
all worldly pleasures ,the subconscious
scumbag, or the true scumbag ,the narcissist
predator is literally bathing in it all. And
too much can never be enough. And so the
scumbags through their willingness to die,and
they love death anyway and nothing but death,
they are conditioned to offer all and any
form of graification ,pleasure they
theirseves desire. The kill and their own
death is finale, as time stands still to the
scumbag happily, death is invited happily on
the other side of the same coin. But, killing
as many innocents as possible at the finale,
makes the task even more inviting.
The prayer chants serve to sooth the question
of doubt in the minds of the scumbags, The
true scumbag mind just gets in the way.But
the scumbad remedies that from time to time
by taking completly over the body and mind.
That's the scumbags struggle, keeping that
hidden from people of the day. Which means
there is no way to fight if off or hide it
when it happens.
That explains why it is those scumbags are
odd in their ways. Subject to suddden
outbursts of fits of anger. They must
surpress theirselves to the point they
theirselves just forcing it,s way through.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 20:59:47
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So the predator pedophile scumbag is living a
lie in the world of the day ,making
themselves out to seem the kindest kind,
carring and considerate,never would the
scumbag hurt a fly they will have you think.
But worse than that, they make themselves out
to be just that,therefore they also make
theirselves believe it fer the duration . Yer
see scumbag pedophiles come alive in sort of
a true awaking in the very early hours of the
morning fer some reason. Makes sense because
everyday people are all sleeping.The true
scumbag is up and out in the veryearly
morning hours.And if their unternet predators
as well and hold a day time job, most likely
the scumbag will show signs through outbursts
of fits if anger. Lack of sleep may account
fer some of it, but living the lie accounts
fer most of it, the true scumbag behind the
mask loaths that act.
And if the scumbag is lacking in sleep, the
scumbag may tend to lose grip on the act or
the living lie. And sothe true scumbag self
can easialy just force its way through.
Ever notice sudden fits of rage or anger for
no apparent reason out of someone who seems a
bit odd in their ways to yer anyway? No
reason at all it will seem.
They go seemingly automaticly into a grooming
mode, suddenly the become kind again and they
may even do something extra fer yer without
having been asked to. Of course the scumbag
will be quick to point out the ah, good deed
done. Having a bad day the scumbag will say.
Lack of sleep is all that causes that, the
scumbags become mentaly exusted sustaining
that lie, of the false person you will see or
they show you. Mental exustion can leave that
trap door open just enough to allow the true
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 21:13:21
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Now, lets try to look at s[censored]bags
sending up red flags and those red flags
being missed or overlooked.
But I ust delay the write up on the count of
I must go down to the local mini mart to pick
up a loaf of bread!
But in reference to the s[censored]bag what
displays sudden outbursts of anger for no
apparent reason, than goes seemingly
automaticly into a grooming mode ,may do
something extra fer yer ,and of course be
quick to point it out to yer, than pitch to
yer the s[censored]bager excuse that the
s[censored]bag is having a bad day.
now if yer had previously noted the
s[censored]bag is odd in a odd sort of way to
begin with, and yer would find the fit of
anger outburst somewhat out of the
s[censored]bags character, or norm, yer may
be inclined to go along with the
s[censored]bager prereadyed excuse about
having a bad day, and with the something
extra added in, well, it;s just that much
easier to just let it slide.
But whats really happening is that
s[censored]bag got you to void out the red
flag out of yer mind. So yer can see how it
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mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 21:49:17
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concerning paedophilia and islam
from the glorious Qu'ran
If you are in doubt concerning those of your
wives who have ceased menstruating, know that
their waiting period shall be three months.
The same shall apply to those who have not
menstruated. As for pregnant women, their
term shall end with their confinement. God
will ease the hardship of the man who fears
him. 65:4, Dawood translation
Ibn Kathir writes regarding 65:4
<divorce them at their `Iddah>, "The
`Iddah is made up of cleanliness and the
menstrual period." So he divorces her while
it is clear that she is pregnant, or he does
not due to having sex, or since he does not
know if she is pregnant or not. This is why
the scholars said that there are two types of
divorce, one that conforms to the Sunnah and
another innovated. The divorce that conforms
to the Sunnah is one where the husband
pronounces one divorce to his wife when she
is not having her menses and without having
had sexual intercourse with her after the
menses ended. One could divorce his wife when
it is clear that she is pregnant. As for the
innovated divorce, it occurs when one
divorces his wife when she is having her
menses, or after the menses ends, has sexual
intercourse with her and then divorces her,
even though he does not know if she became
pregnant or not. There is a third type of
divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an
innovation where one divorces A YOUNG WIFE
WHO HAS NOT BEGUN TO HAVE MENSES, the wife
who is beyond the age of having menses, and
divorcing one's wife before the marriage was
consummated.
Regarding sex with prepubescent children,
Abu-Ala’ Maududi states:
"Therefore, making mention of the
waiting-period for girls who have not yet
menstruated, clearly proves that it is not
only permissible to give away the girl at
this age but it is permissible for the
husband to consummate marriage with her. Now,
obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a
thing which the Qur’an has held as
permissible." (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620,
note 13
From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309
Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me
when I was six years old, and I was admitted
to his house at the age of nine….
From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud,
volume 2, #2116
"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me
when I was seven years old." (The narrator
Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had
intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."
From "The History of Tabari", volume 9, page
131
"Then the men and women got up and left. The
Messenger of God consummated his marriage
with me in my house when I was nine years
old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was
slaughtered on behalf of me"...(The Prophet)
married her three years before the
Emigration, when she was seven years old and
consummated the marriage when she was nine
years old, after he had emigrated to Medina
in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when
he died.
'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married
her when she was seven years old, and he was
taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS
NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when
he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen
years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number
3311)
'A'isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH
DOLLS in the presence of Allah's Messenger
and when her playmates came to her they left
(the house) because they felt shy of Allah's
Messenger whereas Allah's Messenger sent them
to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number
5981)
When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the
expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator
is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a
curtain which was hung in front of her
store-room, revealing some dolls which
belonged to her.
He asked: What is this? She replied: My
dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings
made of rags, and asked: What is this I see
among them? She replied: A horse. He asked:
What is this that it has on it? She replied:
Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings?
She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon
had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon
the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that
I could see his molar teeth. (Sunan Abu
Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914)
comment
A Muslim scholar says that it is okay for
Aisha (and other children) to play with dolls
because they are not considered adults:
Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is
understood that playing with dolls
(al-banaat) is not like the amusement from
other images (suwar) concerning which the
threat (wa'eed) of punishment is mentioned.
The only reason why permission in this was
given to 'Aa'isha (may Allah be pleased with
her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME,
REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY
SO
Therefore, you can conclude that can be made
is that Muhammad was having sex with a Aisha
while still was a child! The Quran allows
this, Muhammad did this, Aisha stated this,
and the scholars affirm this. Now Islam’s
children have to deal with this.
thats enought ETCS
I am sickened by the topic
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-07
Time: 22:03:36
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Indeed, I am sure narcissist suicide
s[censored]bagers and all narcissist
s[censored]bagers that fallow teachings of
the koran will gain much charished
gratification out the preversity contained in
the content.
Clearly sex offenders, pedophiles, murders
,traveling salesmen ,and s[censored]bags of
dominion will find a place of inner peace
through such preverse teachings.
And no doubt serve providers well. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
zapre
Date:
2010-01-08
Time: 14:19:40
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i think its possibly because its actually
western intelligence agancies that carry out
these attacks and then use their PR machine
(the media) to sell the public a fairy tale
in order to introduce even more laws against
our personal freedom
think about it, who benifited more from the
2005 london bombing?...3 lads from leeds (who
are now dead, 2 of them leaving young
families behind)......or a government wishing
to rush through law after law, and the
companies profiting from the technology now
being ushered in? |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-08
Time: 21:39:43
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Mightywurlitzer yer contribution to the topic
is in direct connecton to the big question
that confounds even the so called experts.
Presedent Obama recently became infuriated at
the lack of information sharing between
intelligence gathering agencies calling those
holes in it intolerable. The information was
there scattered between verious government
angecies and bureaucratic red tape kept the
information form becoming coordinated or
compiled in the same place at the same
time.The dots were not connected to form a
clear picture and as a result of that the
invisible passage remained open.
The s[censored]bag terrorist religous leaders
and other high level terrorist operatives use
such bureaucratic blunders to claim that
their evil master whom they refer to as a god
blinded their enemies. They also say their
evil master will pluck the eye out their
enemies. All of which serves as a propaganda
base geared to the general muslim popuals.
All of that is the very evil root leading to
and through the core of the twisted
backwordness that plagues the muslim
religious beliefe system and the laws of
their lands as well. Centuries of drilling
such nonsense into their people.
Just as slippery and slick as those
barbarians are.
Whith the ares covered thus far, near is the
time to slip down into the core question, the
question we all ask and have been asking for
more than eight years now. Many many think
the answer to that question is insanity as a
result of centuries of religous brainwashing.
But we have looked deeper down into it.
M.W. yer must become tough as nails and
proceed back to and clear through the
ect.ect.There is much work to be done.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 05:58:00
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Suicide scumbager Abdul Mutallab ,the
scumbager terrorist that attempted to blow up
flight 253 as it was in preperation for
making it's landing decent on Christmas day
confessed /or said there are 20 more suicide
scumbagers just like him awaiting dispatch
terrorist assignments.
The F-B-I has agents in place investigating
the doings ofAbdul Mutallab in the three
weeks before he boarded flight 253.There is
no information available at current about
Abdul's relationships with woman when he was
in attendence at university studying
engineering. Information gatheribg in his
home areas in Nigeria are also on going.
Ther evil pacification rituals that include
sex and drugs and alcohol as is forbiddin in
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
freddo1939
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 14:03:37
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Hhbooker-- you say, I presume with serious
intent, Perhaps suicide bombers need love as
well.... I can`t imagine wher your`e coming
from... is this some silly christian type
saying, like love thy neighbour--- not that
the saying is silly -- it`s just that it`s
the last thing that christians do... all that
lovey dovey crap is strictly for Sundays....
pity they don`t become aethists , they could
be like it for the other 6 days then.
The only love suicide bombers need is the
love of a lump of lead... thats the same as
they offer to other innocent ppl , depriving
them of their one chance of life on this
wonderful earth of ours.. forget all that
rubbish about afterlife`s in heaven and the
likes-- all that is wishfull thinking and
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 21:50:13
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lol @ his take on islam and child/wifes
well BNP butt monkey
im sure you've heard of a little man called
Henry he was a king, from england had SIX
WIFES. he murdered, tortured, sexually
abused, and locked up them and died of an STD
(pride of britian right?)
firstly your Quoting a hadith (badly quoted i
might add as you haven't give anything from
Sahi al Bukahari (the certified teachings),
your refering to "maturity" well see here
dooshbag.
Back in biblical times, peoples life span was
very slim, by the age of 40 people would have
been expected to die. so maturity then was
reguarded as sexual maturity. many islamic
scolars have commented saying that this is
not just sexual but also mental.
its also widley know that islam is the only
religion to put a cap on the number of wifes,
and actually give women their due
inheretance. (up antil 100 years before today
a woman woulden't even be allowed a bank
account let alone property)
so if you want to spead filth about a faith.
atleast quote property.
their's all types of terrorists now a days,
by they suicide bombers or BNP leaders, even
people prepaired to fight in unjust and
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 22:45:14
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blasterbunny! yer has been shown only what
yer teachers of religion want yer to see
,nothing more. The center of deception lies
within the rooted alspects of evil on the
axis of untraceable penatration.This is to
say that those root bound extensions spread
out in different directions detach at verious
points underground, devide than quater like a
worm as the original root source continues
the divisions continue on seperate routes
only to resurface above ground in undetected
places. A weed is just but a weed. But evil
weeds must die.
No good can come of evil, it's just that way.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 23:01:30
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blaster bunny
I quote from the best translated sources of
the writings of YOUR FAITH
I find it creepy and disgusting
you find it comforting and nice
I did not do an exhaustive hadith search as
there is so much boasting about Mohammed sex
habits in the various hadiths it would take
weeks to collate them all
it sure shows that islam is from God eh?
whilst there are numerous cases of child
marriage in early times the marriage was not
consumated until the married persons were
mature,,unless the man was a paedophile ..
The holy roman emperor married matilda of
england when he was 32 and she was 7
BUT she was 19 before sex happened..just in
time for him to die. YOUR knowledge of life
spans is SO STUPID
people lived abot the same leagth of time
but it was child deaths that reduced the life
expectancy figures
please check your facts
and stop your foolish childish
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repeating for bunny |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 23:08:42
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these were higher up the thread dear blaster
the "certifield teachings"
from Sahih Bukhari, Book 62
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract)
with 'Aisha while she was six years old and
consummated his marriage with her while she
was nine years old and she remained with him
for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the
presence
of the Prophet, and my girl friends also
used
to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used
to
enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide
themselves, but the Prophet would call them
to join and play with me. (The playing with
the dolls and similar images is forbidden,
but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time,
as she was a little girl, not yet reached
the
age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143,
Vol.13
the following show what a lad allah was
Volume 9, Book 87, Number 140:
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown
to me twice (in my dream) before I married
you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken
piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover
(her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to
myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it
must
happen.' Then you were shown to me, the
angel
carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and
I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold,
it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is
from Allah, then it must happen.' "
Some Muslims claimed that Muhammad did not
initiate the marriage with Aisha, but that
Abu Bakr, after Aisha was spunned by a
prospector and was not able to find another
man to marry her, approached Muhammad to
marry here. However, the following hadith
clearly showed that it was Muhammad who was
the initiator and Abu Bakr was even shocked
at that suggestion.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18:
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand
in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your
brother." The Prophet said, "You are my
brother in Allah's religion and His Book,
but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet
departed to Medina. He stayed there for two
years or so and then he married 'Aisha when
she was a girl of six years of age, and he
consumed that marriage when she was nine
years old.
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of
six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at
the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then
I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my
hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman,
came to me while I was playing in a swing
with some of my girl friends. She called me,
and I went to her, not knowing what she
wanted to do to me. She caught me by the
hand
and made me stand at the door of the house.
I
was breathless then, and when my breathing
became Allright, she took some water and
rubbed my face and head with it. Then she
took me into the house. There in the house I
saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes
and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then
she entrusted me to them and they prepared
me
(for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's
Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my
mother handed me over to him, and at that
time I was a girl of nine years of age.
handed over for a paedophine rape by allahs
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
blaster_bunny
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 23:19:06
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again with the dooshbagree
your points are only as ignorant as your
referencing.
BOOK OF WHAT? WHICH VOL? AS NARATED BY WHO?
i woulden't reference the sun newspaper for
bible readings.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 23:33:19
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There were these three stooges, one by the
name of Curly, one by the name of Larry and
one by the name of Moe.And so it was wrtten.
Those three stooges were very famous fer
being very funny , actually they were mentors
fer Monty Python. The ancient scripts will
verify this to be true because it says
so.Therefore because of what it says you must
believe it to be true and except it as
indisputable fact.
When ever the word niagarafalls was said, the
three funny stooges would would go into a
seeming hypnotic ritual and quote certain
particular words whylist acting out those
words in the form of a skit.
The words as were written and as it says here
are and were to fallow-,
Slowely I turn
Step by step
Inch by inch.
Niagara Falls fer some odd reason became a
place fer newly weds to go to on a thing
called honeymoon, as it so says here. It has
been so said ,it say here that organized
crime familys created verious myths about
certain bennificial powers that be the might
Niagara Falls has and it further says that
it's effects on newly weds can be of a
blessful nature if the powers that be show
favor upon the newly bound couple.
Slowingly turning is representative of
turning to the opposite direction thereby
abandoning the bond or running off in the
oppisite direction before that bond binds or
unifys the couple forever.Symbolic of the
last chance to back out.
But ,there is as it so says more in depth
meaning of the hypnotic ritual which is more
about breaking the that of being bound and
changing direction slowely moving away from
what is not good or just in any way.
Or that of breaking the a binding force, and
as the ice flows down the rivers between the
lakes,the moving mothon can be seen and
experienced. It is indeed a slow process and
the waters remain in motion always.
Therefore so it says here ,it is all about
how you roll with the flow!
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-09
Time: 23:50:55
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And so blasterbunny ;
It says in the ancient scrips,
If ye are bound at birth committed to be a
beliver before yer mind hath become full
body, severing the tie may not be a choice
available to in or of the minds eye.Unless
yer were to pray fer what is known to be true
site.
But true sight must also be a true desire.
And so if one true desire is more important
of another that yer may lose one or the
other. This is to say if yer were or are to
be promised to one other before yer sight has
been found,yer may be blinded ferever by a
darkened light which will cast shadows over
yer forever in a day.At that point ,not even
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-10
Time: 07:52:44
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DEAR BUNNY
IF YOU had read the thread you would have
seen that each quotation was fully FULLY
referenced
just for your education (EDUCATION
BUNNY LOL LOL)
Sahih al-Bukhari (Arabic:
صحيح
البخار
610 , as it is commonly referred to as, is
one of the six canonical hadith collections
of Sunni Islam. These prophetic traditions,
or hadith, were collected by the Muslim
scholar Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari
(810-870) and compiled during his lifetime.
Most Sunni Muslims view this as their most
trusted collection of hadith and it is
considered the most authentic book after the
Qur'an.
YES
Muhammad ibn Ismail al-Bukhari
first time you have heard of him?
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-10
Time: 09:57:25
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Actually M.W. isn't there a collection of of
research obtainable on the inter net written
by former muslims who through their research
discovered that the koran is a lie and that
is truth.
I mean some of those former believers are
very very educated and very very angry fer
having been shafted into becoming believers
since birth.
Discovering the ability to question their own
beliefs or a system of blief that was forced
upon them in turn inspired those people to
actually find the truth about it which
happens to be lies and total controdiction.
And they have in a most impressive mannor
demonstrated the facts in such a way that
anyone who is interested to know,simply can
know. Which means they have nothing to
protect,nothing to hide and nothing to be
ashamed of.And they are angry enough about it
to expose the deep dark truths.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
snookerfan
Date:
2010-01-10
Time: 19:50:41
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Re: original post
Yeah you can always hear the idiots who've
undergone some sort of military
indoctrination.. "here have this
gun/bomb/plane I've made, and go do some
killing for us" ... "kill? yes it's your duty
soldier.. you'll be saving lives"
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-10
Time: 21:14:52
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Hello there snookerfan !
M.W. I think blasterbunny is geared up to
dispute you based on bunny belief that it is
all highly subject to translation. As it will
seem ,the best the bunny can offer in a
counter argument on behalf of the bunnys
belief's is a shorter life span.
But I really think as is required of such
believers that the bunny is looking at what
is forbidded to look at in the ay it shown.
The bunny must look away.The bunny has been
conditioned to look away from it. The bunny
is conditioned to never ever question the
koran or it's teachings which are law.
Even in asking in the interest of learning
the bunny must arrange the question in such a
way that there is not even the remotest
reflection of what is considered to be
blastoff blaspheme,or that of putting the
koran script into a perverted context,which
is a crime punishable in some of those
contries by death by stoning. Imprisonmentin
other countries or being killed by a parent
who would do murder thinking that saving the
family from being ousted which could be a
fate worse than death to them all.
so the fact that the bunny is looking at it
as it is there and viewing it from how it is
as is ,as others outside their faith view
it,also means a different view to has been
considered. So thats ok.
The bunny can not offer up a ligitimate
explanation other than a faith based
explanation which explains nothing ,nowhere
no how.
The bunny simple believes yer do not question
it or show any form of disrespect.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-10
Time: 22:52:48
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i always find that Muslims dispute the
translation of their "holy" books .
I try to use sources that have been
translated by muslims and published by
muslims. My books are also printed in muslim
countries.
Blaster knows nothing of other faiths
she gets her information from islamic sources
which to say the least might be biased. THEN
she speaks of respect. One really GOOD way to
annoy a muslim in a face to face discussion
is to tell him about his religion from
non-muslim sources. But I agree she just
CANNOT not be decent and fair
she knows she has sinned according to the
neofascist islamic faith
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-11
Time: 22:20:52
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^^^^^^^^^
IT IS
basically all the problems of the world are
down to western secret services so that they
can supress freedom and make massive
profits.
Beats me how they can get all these peeps to
blow themselves up.
I BET THE C.I.A. CAUSED THE CRUSADES |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
snookerfan
Date:
2010-01-11
Time: 23:06:51
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Play this card at any time to give +10 Power
or Resistance (your choice) to any Violent
group you control..
If used with an action, it must be played
when that action is first declared, and
counts only for that action. If used for
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
toq1
Date:
2010-01-19
Time: 17:30:49
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As a muslim, i believe that the west is to
blame for many of the problems in the
middle-east, supporting oppression of
palestinian, the west should remove their
bases from muslim lands,they should stop
supporting dictorship, they should stop
trying to force their culture on the people
of the middle-east and south east asia.
Terrorism can never be justified.
It can never be solved by drone
attacks,bombing countries.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
jollygoodfellow
Date:
2010-01-19
Time: 17:37:20
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Yeah its all the wests fault. The problem is
the islamic religion! and the ideas that the
person knows what god wants.. In that essense
the person ignores the law and becomes
selfish! the law comes first before
god..There is no laws in the middle east only
the laws of allah.
Its all the wests fault theres nutters
blowing themselfs up? you wanna look at
people doing this just to use an excuse to
make there own beliefs devout..
PPL wanna blow themselfs up please do not do
it where there is other ppl..
I will always say this ppl who find fault in
others use this for an excuse for there own
dislike..
if you dont like it go and fight in
afganistan with the taliban.. oh and there
will never be sharia law in the uk never...
This is a secular country and is staying that
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
mightywurlitzer
Date:
2010-01-19
Time: 20:17:01
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toq1
where it ALL started was jewish interests
made the CIA offer a bribe to the Prophet
Mohmammed (9 Pieces of eight be upon
him)..this was the original blessing))
The jews were jealous because Mo ( po8buh)
has been told by Allah that they had faked
jesus's crucifixion and lots of the Torah
and were planning to take over the world
was mohammed annoyed
he sent the CIA and the jews a STIFF note
and they CIA and Jews have been trying to
destroy Gods religion ever since
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-20
Time: 01:16:20
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Don't yers know about the the profit mobile
who's teaching are about rewards real . The
profit mobile says it says here that you are
what you drive and the world is all about
cars.The profit mobile says that mohomad was
nothing more than a camal jockey who when
walking was a salesman who sold substandard
goods.And substandard goods are destructive.
You believe it is something of quality, you
use it as thought it is,than it falls apart.
That means those goods were or are a
perverted version of something of a high
quality. So it says here in the words of the
profit mobile.
Mobile goes on to say it says here that the
perverted version of something good is
nothing more than a very poor attempt at
duplication conceived of deception which can
only lead to destruction.
These wise words are out of the age old
scripts of the profit Automobile.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-20
Time: 02:22:22
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The profit automobile having seen through
false profitless prophesies and profits all
under the same name could not and would not
have his name duplicated through deception in
any perverted manor what so ever.And so, it
says here the profit automobile placed many
patent patients over his name thereby making
he himself the only one of many.Therefer the
ptofit automobile is the only true original
one.There can be no others of mention by name
of automobile .The profit automobile than
assigned a patricular make and modle fer each
and every series and further created many
many names to choose from all of which are
dcendents of the great profit automobile, so
it says here.
Fer example it says here , if yer are parital
to Japan ,yer can be a toyota corolla
complete with assigned make and model numbers
fer you governments convience! Yer can be a
ford escort ,yer can be a volvo ,yer can be
any number of names under the heading of the
profit automobile but yer cannot bear the
name or title of the profit automobile.
And ther's more, it says here the profit
automobile has on the drawing board the
perfect mid eastern car for everyone! The
moowhoomud land rover! And is shall be it
says here,a thing of indistructable beauty
complete with auto ejection sabsabotage
detection system modeled after a early
sixties version of the austin martin line!
It is also stone proof yet leaves no stone
unturned!And it also comes equipped with a
standard well groomed teddy bear as a bonus
by the name of, you guessed it, mohamad ! |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-01-24
Time: 06:21:38
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Since we know woman are just as narcisstic as
men are and since the terror alert has been
raised,and since it is suspected that woman
suicide bombers may be plotting attacks ,the
love of death is back on the table.
The question is, do you really believe the
suiciders are looking to make the climb on
that old mythical stairway to heaven ,the
fast track, or really ,do you think those
woman are just tired and ready to die.
To the narcissist 20 or 30 years old is old
,age old.And 30 or older having had children
and seeing nothing of a future in the light,
death would be welcome to the narcissist.
And it does not matter where on earth the
narcissist is or orginates from.
Or do you think it is religious fanatical
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
barracus
Date:
2010-01-25
Time: 14:33:32
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Well well well, now forgive me if i'm wrong,
but isn't it usual to lead from the front,
(ie)lead by example. So, why don't the hate
clerics and mullars show their protege's how
it's done. If I truly thought that Iwould be
living the life of Riley by blowing myself
up, I would be the first in the queue to
leave this world. No, it's all total
bollocks, and they know that. If they want to
vacate this earth on the end of a bomb, I
think the boys in Afganistan would appreciate
them walking through a minefield or two,
after all, i'm sure Allah would look after
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
toq1
Date:
2010-03-04
Time: 17:25:43
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Terrorists such as al-qaida ae using religion
for their own political aims. More muslims
have died from teerrorism than non-muslims,
we are all victims. You can blame muslims or
our faith but it will not stop terrorism. We
need to work together as human beings to
better understand each other so that we can
live in peace.Killing one another in not the
solution.
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
beaver12
Date:
2010-03-04
Time: 17:56:20
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toqu,we all know that,but try telling that to
them,the nutters who are blowing themselves
and every one ells to pieces and causing
untold misery to perfectly innocent ppls,who
just want to live in Peace on this earth of
ours.We know not all of you Muslims are
bombers etc,and that most of you want the
same as us,to live in piece,but it seems
there are some that dont want this,the
solution??????well your guess is as good as
mine.But sorry to disappoint them,i am not
going to convert to Islam,fore the simple
fact that i do not need religion to live my
life.lol. |
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Re: SUICIDE BOMBERS |
niagarafalls
Date:
2010-03-04
Time: 19:29:47
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Indeed nutters,suicide scumbagers same
same.Every thieving lpw life scumbag lives
by one code and one code only,in a
confrontation they plan of going out but they
expect to take out as many as they can with
them. The scumbag thief robs a bank ,the
scumbags justifys the act by believing he
only does what they do,the bank robs you and
the thief robs the bank.It's all in how you
look at it. So the scumbag thief will think
he or she is no better or worse.
The suicide scumbaggers use that way of
looking at it.It's the age old story about
what is left in a thieves note.The suicide
scumbagger starts out making it ugly. The
finna; end is the only thing they are capable
of loving which is death . They gain
gratification building up to the finnal act
thinking about how many people they can take
with them. The religius stuff is nothing more
than a smoke screen,It keeps their minds
fogged up just enough to cloud out doubt or
secound thought.
Common scumbag thiefs use a similar fogging
of the mind method. It helps them to force
their way through with the dirty deed.
Suicide scumbaggers are scum and nothing but. |
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