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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
untouchable08 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 12:45:07	Naaa not even muslim bash,i dnt mind muslims,,were all human beings..thats the way i see us,,we are all manifestations of energy,,,its just keepopenminded does my head in,constantly banging on about the same crap,,just in different ways He must be punished,,,get him jollyman,show no mercy!!
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:00:14	Youve got to laugh sometimes you see these religious channels. The preacher thinks he can heal in gods name.They get a disabled person ina wheel chair and the crowd chant and chant. the person then lifts themselfs out of the chair and walks a few steps. and then collapses. In the meantime the preacher is making a hell of lot of money. Geez thats exactly what religion is a CON.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
snookerfan Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:03:21	To keepOpenMinded.. it is not what you claim to be, but what you actually are, that counts where religion is concerned. Many profess religion.., but behave worse than those who dont.. lol..I saw post where fellow muslim female was tellin him to leave her alone, and wanted to ask KeepopenMinded 'how much of quran do you actually OBEY? 100%..90..75..?'
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:08:50	jollyman30 every believe system by your assesment is man made even non-religous beleifes so in that REGARDS FLAWED. approx 1 million people (or what ever the actual figure was) believed the WAR on IRAQ was wrong yet WAR criminals such as BLAIR believed he was right
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:14:30	Blair had is reasons for attacking iraq only he knows.and such things are top secret, perhaps he had the inention of fighting islamic fundamentilists in iraq,rather than having to the pay the price down the line when they attack the united kingdom. Its proven theres alot of these cretins in iraq by the consent suicide bombings over there. I didnt agree with the war meself though. Religion is just hear-say theres no proof to it. same with alot of supernatural accurances. Theres never been 1 bit of concrete evidence in the entire history of mankind.says something to me like, life is black and white.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:18:44	jollyman30 you missing the point Im making, just becoz somthing cant really be proven today doesnt make it impossible or wrong. I believe in the 18th Century if you had said that MAN would fly the'd lock you up and throw away the key. Misuse of religon and or nay belief system is what causes problems is the point im trying to make.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:24:34	Bigharry! yet even in the 18th centuary it was possible to fly. even paper in the wind would have flown and proved to ppl witha brain it was possible. I am talking about religion as a whole and supernatural accurances. I know religion is being miss-used. but am stating in the first place .how can you missuse something that as never been proven. I was saying that religion is man made and thats pretty obvious. So these people who claim to go to heaven for mudering are basically beliving something that doesent exist. yet science as always been there. religion is trying to explain god and other stuff inlife, that IS NOT there.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:31:02	Jolyfellow, 17th/16th/15th or whatever Century then or earlier dont matter there have been periods in HISTORY where the escience at the times couldnt prove what we know now. eg WORLD was considered to be FLT and if you sialed to far you would fall of the edge of the WORLD. Science is MAN MADE therefore is FALWED also is my point. As for people diening going to heaven hell , reincarnationg or going into simple nothingness, well SCIENCE has niether proven or disproven this as I know and understand today. relgion or any beliefe systems / laws are simply a guidance on how people should behave in an orderly fashion. However no matter what belief system it is always open to abuse.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
suze Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:36:10	jolly hiya i find the religion threads quite boring but love to be objectionable to religious zealots who are so far up their own exit holes. keepo fits perfectly into that category and i would imagine the imams target him because he comes across as an automaton, spouting verbatim whatever he is fed
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:41:36	suze youve found religous threads boring becoz there often is very littel debate and more HATE, me and jooly fellow i belive are haveing a jolly DEBATE , just keep an eye out for the THREAD bashers
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:42:43	Maybe but why teach things that arent proven?. we can only teach things that are there and science is there. If ppl stopped beliving in god and the afterlife, they would start helping each other. We would realise that life was actually precsious! these suicide bombers they have not 1 ounce of worry over death, as they believe there going to heaven. religion isnt miss-used religion is the problem full stop. I could write a fairy tale about a person coming back from the grave and in 100 years it could be fact too. Science is the only proof about life,You cannot miss-use something that doesnt exsist. Only thing that should be taught in life thats humanity.on a global scale. I dont mind ppl having a religion or belief system, but they shouldnt take it as litteral truth, when its not even proveable. Religion gives people false hope. i was taught about jesus in school,. the muslim ppl went to there religious hour and taughed about islam, all it did was give me false hope in life. Gives ppl a spirtual understanding,But makes ppl think there gonna get somewhere and deserve better, ppl stand still because of religion, It should never be taught in schools and it should never be taught as fact. I repeat only thing that should be taught is humanity.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:47:20	jollyman30 Communism/Socialims/MARXISM whatever uwant to class is a beliefe system that isnt religous and in THEORY would/should result in the perfect WELFARE STATE. But human GREED fails to make them so. Science etc alone cannot answer everything. What we know today may in years time be considered foolish and unscientific in times to come
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 13:58:59	Yep they are belief systems, based on control of the masses, They are corrupt and religion isnt proved. Theres other ways and thats humanity and kindness. If the religious stuff was scraped in schools. and changed to an hour of so . called the kindness hour or something, that would bring people together rather than seperate. Religion is the problem. I dont mind ppl having a religion.but for pities sake dont take it litteral. when its not proven. Science is evolving our understanding growing as we move on in life, religion stands still. If a suicide bomber or a christian biggot decides to do bad things to people, then they have to question themselfs not there religion. I know i said religion is to blame, but tis still the ppl that follow the religion who refuse to alter there way of thinking. Take keepopenminded for instance, he knows what we are saying when it comes for him to understand others points of view, and he can even see that parts of his religion doesnt sit well. but he refuses to change,cause of fear of losing his belief, you dont have to lose your belief just alter it when you need to understand others.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 14:02:23	snooker! have never read that book, And i gotta laugh about believe and you will see, i will state this to you, i like most want something extra something supernatural inlife to help me know that i may live on beyond this life, But there as never been 1 bit of cast iron proof of anything supernatural accuring in the history of mankind, That speaks volumes to me.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 14:05:54	Jolyman my point exactly " but tis still the ppl that follow the religion who refuse to alter there way of thinking." Problem is alot of these THREAD BASHERS copyrighted to me as I like to call them dont actually undertsand the religous texts they are bashing or under what context something was written. therefore mis-understanding the point being made and misrepresenting the beliefe system they unfortunately trying to convince others of . Jolly fellow you still aint commented about my other religous THREAD and existance of GOD, proven scientifcally (biology is a science).
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
balbybadboy1981 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 14:14:58	i find it amusing when religous ppl go on about how god created the universe and all life as we know it but if that was the case who created that god and the one before him etc etc ad infinitum truth is we will never have the answer to that question all we have are just theories
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 14:33:44	snooker! i have tried all my life to see something extra in life. well all go around looking for something extra, My mind is very open to supernatural stuff, I have heard of stuff like it in my life,from family and friends. I am not calling these ppl liars just mistaken.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
yuk Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 14:54:11	"Why does the sexual appetite cause so much unspeakable joy and irrational misery, so much suicidal and homicidal madness, and so much absurd theological ranting? Because every sexual choice is going to play a role in determining the temperament and talents of the next generation, and of all future generations who will inherit the earth from us. To be simple about it for once, a single friendly [censored] can fill a continent with morons or geniuses in only a few thousand years."
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
jollyman30 Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 15:01:52	Big harry nah i let ppl get on with there lifes. Just when it impacts on me i tell them. The first thing i think of when it comes to women is making them laugh and try and make em happy. I dont look at them and size them up and have improper thoughts about them. I actually like to know the woman first,
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
bigharry Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 15:14:12	chill jolly fellow im just havin a jolly jest with you nothing more. respecting the lovely flowers is a good trait more men should have it, and dont presume anything about anyone even if they have millions of SEX threads
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
socrates Date: 2008-05-09 Time: 20:34:26	Are youse obsessed with sex? Anyway, I would put money on Keep being a muslim - and I bet he reappears under another guise. I would also guess he is - foriegn (due to his inability to understand Western plp) - Deeply involved with a Mosque (Imam?) and un-married ( obsession with sexual mores)Oh, and a pretty sad geezer.
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Re: Is keepopenminded actually muslim???
red9t9 Date: 2008-05-10 Time: 07:49:22	All those sura's he pasted and other quote's from the koran really did nothing for him personally, it was all just a cloak for his ambition to get into his paradise...he did not care about anyone at all...and he even admitted it in one of his post's, maybe he really need's to find out what a muslim in the real sanse of the word is! surely being a muslim must be much more than his idea of what being muskim is. but is he typical of most muslims that people know of?
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